figgy Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just watched the AEAC latest video on the AA 510 TDR. He states in his video about his trip to the JSB factory and his statement that all pellets are made on the same factory dies. He states he was wrong and Air Arms do have there very own dies kept at the factory for doing there runs of pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, figgy said: Just watched the AEAC latest video on the AA 510 TDR. He states in his video about his trip to the JSB factory and his statement that all pellets are made on the same factory dies. He states he was wrong and Air Arms do have there very own dies kept at the factory for doing there runs of pellets. Sounds very fishy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu64 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 A while ago a put a jsb 8.44 beside an air arms both standing on end. the air arms was slightly taller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I've also been told this that AA have their own dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Iv found the AA is a softer pellet to....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Air arms come in a black and yellow tin .jsb in red and white 🙄 Edited January 15, 2020 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Biketestace that'll be the thin skirt. The lead antimony mix will be the same for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Same weight same bc. On balistics apps jsb 8.44 or air arms field poi are identical all the way out Suppose its the same as bisley magnums and H&N Barracuda match there the same pellet with the same batch numbers owned by the same company only h&n are cleaner than bisleys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Everybody is doing it - got a box of .22lr that proudly states Norma USA on the box - cases are stamped RWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Compared to H&N Jsb pellet cleaning is old school, put a load on a cloth and move the cloth to roll and clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 23 hours ago, figgy said: Compared to H&N Jsb pellet cleaning is old school, put a load on a cloth and move the cloth to roll and clean. ***** that made me chuckle haha. Yeah the H&N's are shiny there that clean although i still wash weigh and lube them for the pcp. And just wash and weigh to make sure of consistancy for the springer to stop deiseling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 What, you don't size them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Arron yeates said: ***** that made me chuckle haha. Yeah the H&N's are shiny there that clean although i still wash weigh and lube them for the pcp. And just wash and weigh to make sure of consistancy for the springer to stop deiseling. I can understand that if your being competitive, but I just check the skirts are ok. 12 minutes ago, Mr.C said: What, you don't size them? He will be doing now, and two decimal places isn't good enough.🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mice! said: I can understand that if your being competitive, but I just check the skirts are ok. He will be doing now, and two decimal places isn't good enough.🤭 See i look at things like if you can make something even better by doing something for free do it. Ive found washing and lubing them does make a difference. I dont size etc i check 20 or so weight wise and if there the same as usual which they always come out at 10.4 grain in 4.52mm with the same batch number im all good lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Arron yeates said: See i look at things like if you can make something even better by doing something for free do it. Ive found washing and lubing them does make a difference. I dont size etc i check 20 or so weight wise and if there the same as usual which they always come out at 10.4 grain in 4.52mm with the same batch number im all good lol I'm just pulling your leg, which lube do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I have been shooting a tin of pellets I washed and lubed around two or three years ago. The run faster through my gun, today when testing a pellet selection they were 10 mps faster that unwashed and in lubed pellets of same weight and head size. Going to re test tomorrow while gun is warm as it was around 3degc to day with wind chill. Lost around 3mps when gun got cold. Need to decide on a pellet size, 5.5 or 5.51 for the impact. Found after ordering a sleeve that 5.52 is too tight velocity drops with them. The JSB express 14.35 in 5.52 is only same speed as AADF 16g in 5.51. My gun seems to.like the Air Arms Pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Yeah should run faster. Tbf mate ive not tested lubed verses none lubed for the difference in speed but it makes sense 2 hours ago, Mice! said: I'm just pulling your leg, which lube do you use? Ky however 10 40 fully synthetic works lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Arron yeates said: Yeah should run faster. Tbf mate ive not tested lubed verses none lubed for the difference in speed but it makes sense Ky however 10 40 fully synthetic works lmao I was sure someone else would have jumped on the Lube 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I'm sure I sprayed eds red on my pellets, the barrel stays cleaner. I notice after a few unlubed pellets they slow down over the chrony. Put the lubed ones back in and they speed up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Ill post up the brand i use to lube my pellets with later. I find my barrel stays cleaner and pretty sure it helps speed things up. Tony Wall - Sandwell field sports owner and tuner made the comment before of.. you wouldnt put dirty oil in your engine would you so why would you put dirty lead in your barrel... totally agree with him. I just get a jar thats clean. Add fairy wash liquid and add a tin or pellets. Add hot water to the mix and put the top on. Gently turn the jar for 10 mins then empty using a siv didicated to the pellets as using it for food after wouldnt be advisable. Then lay a towl out or i prefer blue roll and empty the clean jar of pellets onto the blue roll and dry them with a hair dryer making sure all the insides of the skirts are dry. Then leave to cool and spray a light spray of pellet lube on them. Using each end if the blue roll i lift one end at a time to mix them and spread the lube then put back in the pellet tin after the tines had a wipe out Easy Edited January 18, 2020 by Arron yeates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 I just lashed some cleanzoil into a tin with around a hundred pellets in. Rolled them around the wet foam in bottom. Tipped them into a clean time and used the lube tin to lube some pellets for testing. Yesterday I got a sample of 6 different 5.5 &,5.51 pellets before ordering ten tins. Crikey they were slow. Some were only 9.5 for others 10.5. lubed some and re done today with some of the better grouping ones. Now between 11.2 &,11.7 fpe for the 17 plus grain Pellets. Gained on average 10mps by lubing them. Anyone with a rifle not putting out enough power try lube on your pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Try the method above it really helps and works mate. 10 mps is alot blimey didnt realise the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 That's in .22, it got the jsb 5.52 upto 172 MPS average only one or two MPS behind the 5.51 lubed. I wouldn't bother lubing them but the tin of AADF my gun is loving is from 2009 with the skin coloured lid. They were a bit oxidised somi washed them oiled them and left them in the tin for few years in cupboard. Done the strelock trajectory validation today zeroed at 30m and ran the test at 48m as that was longest I could get drop of around 115mm as had a few flyers with wind and me wobbling resting gun on step ladder. Strelock has the drop at 2.75 mil it was 2.4 mil so better BC than listed, might be the FX barrel or lube. Checked at 22m and was spot on. Need longer range to check at distance. Trouble is I'm nearly out of the AADF so will have it all to do again when new batch of JSB arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 The drop could have been the wind mate Keep going enjoying these tests lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Don't think it was Arron the wind pushed them sideways. The ones that went higher were me, there was a few 😯🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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