Antman-nz Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 I need info about reloading subsonic 7.62x39. I've done some online research, but haven't really gained a definitive answer. I need a reliable load for shooting deer and feral pigs. Anyone doing this, or knowing how to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi You should be able to get some good information from Muir (Andrew), on the Stalking Directory Forum, who has just bought and been extolling the virtues of the calibre/accuracy in a variety of ammuntion (admittedly factory) in his New Years new rifle. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Antman-nz said: I need info about reloading subsonic 7.62x39. I've done some online research, but haven't really gained a definitive answer. I need a reliable load for shooting deer and feral pigs. Anyone doing this, or knowing how to? Loading that calibre to subsonic levels would mean it won't be legal for deer. I am not sure if feral pigs / boar have a minimum energy limit, but I wouldn't want to be shooting them with something going subsonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Loading that calibre to subsonic levels would mean it won't be legal for deer. I am not sure if feral pigs / boar have a minimum energy limit, but I wouldn't want to be shooting them with something going subsonic. He's not in the UK, so laws may be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Newbie to this said: He's not in the UK, so laws may be different. Sorry it says Staffordshire under his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Lloyd90 said: Sorry it says Staffordshire under his name. Just seen that, but on another post about Co2 rifles he said he is in Tasman New Zealand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) If you want information on loading that cartridge then a very good source of information would be the Shooters Forum as I know there are a fair number on there who reload them. I would doubt however if you could reload a sub sonic load which would be a reliable humane killer of either species UNLESS you are talking very close range brain shots. The cartridge is certainly in standard form below the legal limit here in the UK for deer but can be loaded to JUST meet the criterior. I don't work on JUST, I like a cartridge that I know ill do the job and a bit more if necessary. Edited January 21, 2020 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Walker570 said: If you want information on loading that cartridge then a very good source of information would be the Shooters Forum as I know there are a fair number on there who reload them. I would doubt however if you could reload a sub sonic load which would be a reliable humane killer of either species UNLESS you are talking very close range brain shots. The cartridge is certainly in standard form below the legal limit here in the UK for deer but can be loaded to JUST meet the criterior. I don't work on JUST, I like a cartridge that I know ill do the job and a bit more if necessary. Thing is though the UK criteria is a bit off. We all know big slow moving calibre's are heavy hitters when stopping game, yet some of them don't meet the UK spec. Do we really think a 7.62x39 isn't able to drop a Roe? or a Fallow? I think with the right bullet head it would be more than capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 7.62x39 is easy to get UK deer legal with the right powder. you’ll not get it deer legal subsonic but the Americans do put it together I believe hard to get semi auto to cycle reliably and magazine length can be an issue. Trail boss will give an accurate slow round but not quite subsonic in my playing around. id like a load like the 300 whisper that I can use on a restricted energy range near me. I’ll play soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Thing is though the UK criteria is a bit off. We all know big slow moving calibre's are heavy hitters when stopping game, yet some of them don't meet the UK spec. Do we really think a 7.62x39 isn't able to drop a Roe? or a Fallow? I think with the right bullet head it would be more than capable. I am sure it would but there are much better choices. Why use something which is probably marginal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Who uses an AK47 for shooting deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vince Green said: Who uses an AK47 for shooting deer? Not an AK 47 but a CZ carbine in 7.62x39 5 hours ago, Walker570 said: I am sure it would but there are much better choices. Why use something which is probably marginal? It’s very efficient and far from marginal delivering a lot more energy than a 22cf. It also allows a shorter carbine that’s very nice to shoot in woods. The ‘better choices’ are based on your preference otherwise we’d all just have 308 win and everything would be null and void. Edited January 22, 2020 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Vince Green said: Who uses an AK47 for shooting deer? Ruger , Howa and CZ all do their rifles chambered in 7.62x39 He is in NZ, maybe hog control from heli’s using an AK it is? Just because we’re used to things here, doesn’t mean to say that it’s unacceptable elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman-nz Posted January 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 22/01/2020 at 04:15, Lloyd90 said: I’ll be shooting at night with a suppressed Ruger bolt action and Pulsar thermal riflescope. Distance will be well under 100m and I usually head shoot. The purpose is eradication not sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman-nz Posted January 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 22/01/2020 at 16:41, welshwarrior said: Not an AK 47 but a CZ carbine in 7.62x39 It’s very efficient and far from marginal delivering a lot more energy than a 22cf. It also allows a shorter carbine that’s very nice to shoot in woods. The ‘better choices’ are based on your preference otherwise we’d all just have 308 win and everything would be null and void. I usually use one of my .308’s for sport/meat shooting. The subsonic set-up is for areas that are close to towns and settlements when not waking up the neighbours is desirable, and for shooting as many animals as possible in the shortest time, ie pest control. I develop shooting systems for pest controllers who are contracted by regional councils, wildlife trusts, Department of Conservation etc, for clearing deer, pigs and goats in areas set aside for native forest regeneration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 If legal where you are a bolt gun firing subs do it it’ll work well. I’ve worked with very accurate 308 sub sonics before that are very useful for discreetly removing problems discreetly. cant see why deer and boar wouldn’t work as well with well placed shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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