Vince Green Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Thunderbird said: Coffee shops seem to be massive business too (the modern variety), I have never noticed one ever shut. I wonder if many people tot up how much they spend on coffee from these joints? Its a very labour intensive business, true they are on every street corner but the average spend is very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 21 hours ago, Thunderbird said: Coffee shops seem to be massive business too (the modern variety), I have never noticed one ever shut. I wonder if many people tot up how much they spend on coffee from these joints? There always seems to be loads of youngsters wandering about with take-out coffee cups clutched in their hands, so no wonder the coffee shops spring up everywhere. Clearly the Starbucks cup is a must-have fashion accessory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Wonder what will happen to them when they ban single-use cups... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, amateur said: There always seems to be loads of youngsters wandering about with take-out coffee cups clutched in their hands, so no wonder the coffee shops spring up everywhere. Clearly the Starbucks cup is a must-have fashion accessory. Just googled. Two big Costa lattes a day costs over a fiver. Assuming 22 working days a month on average, a couple, both drinking two a day is going to cost north of £220 a month, not including weekends. Then add cakes, brownies, paninis etc. Like I said before, I've never seen one shut down. Edited January 28, 2020 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, amateur said: There always seems to be loads of youngsters wandering about with take-out coffee cups clutched in their hands, so no wonder the coffee shops spring up everywhere. Before I retired (about 3 years ago) I worked in an office with about 150 people in the immediate building. Our employer supplied unlimited free tea and coffee (both decent 'branded' instant coffee and teabags, plus milk, hot water, sugar etc. and cup washing machines). There was a 'make your own area' on each floor and you could take your cup back to your desk area if you wanted. Despite this - many of the younger staff arrived with a 'Costa' or 'Starbucks', went out in the car at lunchtime and came back with another. They were also always the ones complaining that they couldn't make the money last until next payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 It’s not just the youngsters. A friend of mine, aged 68, can’t pass a filling station when we go anywhere. He always stops and buys a coffee. The really stupid thing is, I have never seen him drink one yet. Never more than one swallow and then it is in the cup holder until cold and thrown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Is Shrewsbury unique? The number of independent shops there, is I believe the reason why the town is rammed every Saturday. True, it has its fair share of coffee shops (why does a medium coffee in Costa come in something the size of a bucket?) and of course charity shops but the overwhelming impression I get whenever I'm in town is very positive. Add to that the very interesting indoor market and general air of "niceness", I don't think it can be beat. As for food, we try to buy as much as we can from the farm shop at Battlefield but its impossible to avoid going to the big supermarkets for the rest. Amazon - I really don't like the fact they pay virtually no tax but fact is, its so bloody convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 23 hours ago, London Best said: It’s not just the youngsters. A friend of mine, aged 68, can’t pass a filling station when we go anywhere. He always stops and buys a coffee. The really stupid thing is, I have never seen him drink one yet. Never more than one swallow and then it is in the cup holder until cold and thrown away. The problem for me with coffee bought this way is that its too hot to drink immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 And too foul to drink at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, London Best said: And too foul to drink at all! I agree, its always amazed me that the big chains like Starbucks, Costa and Nero sell a premium priced product but use a really cheap tasting unpalatable coffee. McD and Burger King do better these days than they once did but there is no real excuse. People are much more discerning now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 27/01/2020 at 14:35, moondoggy said: A lot seem to be Turkish Eastern Europeans, don’t mind doing the jobs we don’t want to do. They spotted a hole in the market and filled it to overflowing. Yes but the point made above by Walshie is right, its all cash in hand. As of tomorrow that's going to start to change. My mum's Hungarian carer has had to quit working for us because she has to get a proper job on paye with a provable income if she wants to stay in this country. And the bar is set quite high, she recognises she is going to have to get multiple jobs to meet the requirements. I think a lot of car washes and fast food restaurants are going suffer, so are a lot of care homes etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) McDonalds coffee is terrible. On the odd occasion my wife wants to call in one my usual drink is black coffee or espresso. In MCD I'd rather do without. Costas from a fuel station is scalding hot and after dirty to cool down its usuy too cold to enjoy. Not been in a Starbucks it Nero for a decade. Edited January 30, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Vince Green said: Yes but the point made above by Walshie is right, its all cash in hand. As of tomorrow that's going to start to change. My mum's Hungarian carer has had to quit working for us because she has to get a proper job on paye with a provable income if she wants to stay in this country. And the bar is set quite high, she recognises she is going to have to get multiple jobs to meet the requirements. I think a lot of car washes and fast food restaurants are going suffer, so are a lot of care homes etc I've got nothing against responsible immigration but the problem is that many firms have got used to building their entire business model on cheap foreign labour (for example parts of the agricultural sector) rather than investing in tech and innovation. This has created an income strata that bumps along on never more than the minimum wage. It's perhaps ironic that the left are so keen on immigration yet it's precisely free movement that's created this issue. EDIT; but then the left has never had a problem with believing two completely contradictory things simultaneously. Edited January 30, 2020 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Thunderbird said: I've got nothing against responsible immigration but the problem is that many firms have got used to building their entire business model on cheap foreign labour (for example parts of the agricultural sector) rather than investing in tech and innovation. This has created an income strata that bumps along on never more than the minimum wage. It's perhaps ironic that the left are so keen on immigration yet it's precisely free movement that's created this issue. EDIT; but then the left has never had a problem with believing two completely contradictory things simultaneously. What the Labour Champagne Socialists and old school Commies failed to appreciate about uncontrolled immigration was that it was exactly their core voters, the "real" working class, that were losing the battle against the pool of cheap labour. They paid the price for that mistake at the ballot box. There is no such thing as a minimum wage when you are getting paid cash in hand. Its just take it or leave it. Edited January 30, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vince Green said: What the Labour Champagne Socialists and old school Commies failed to appreciate about uncontrolled immigration was that it was exactly their core voters, the "real" working class, that were losing the battle against the pool of cheap labour. They paid the price for that mistake at the ballot box. There is no such thing as a minimum wage when you are getting paid cash in hand. Its just take it or leave it. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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