BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 O.k first thing I'll admit is the gun a SMK S2 ( super naff air pistol) is not designed for BB's but as I only spent I think 10 or 20 quid on it a few years back I decided whilst a mate was round with his bb firing gun I would put a couple through it, this never happened as as soon as I put them in they fell out the other end ! I checked the size on the bottle ( umerex) they were listed as .177 but are clearly not the same as a .177 pellet why is this ? The bb can be rattled around in the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Maybe because the BB doesn't have a skirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 right so the .177 does not include the skirt ! It doesn't rally matter as I have no intention of using bb's but was just interested in the size difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I'm only guessing but yes when you push the normal pellet in the skirt seats in to barrel/rifling and then when fired that expands it even tighter. Now you've made me go out in the rain and cold to the workshop to get my calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 The pistol has a steel RIFLED barrel, why, on earth, would you feed it BB's? The clue is in the guns description - fires .177 or .22 lead pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: The pistol has a steel RIFLED barrel, why, on earth, would you feed it BB's? The clue is in the guns description - fires .177 or .22 lead pellets. Gordon Bennett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Woops ! Bruno seems to have anger management issues I hope no one has been daft enough to allow you near guns ! I did try fitting .22 pellets but even with a very big hammer they still wouldn't go in. Edited March 19, 2020 by BADGER.BRAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Your mates pistol has a smooth bore barrel and takes 4.5 mm bbs (which will probably actually measure around 4.45 mm ) Your pellet gun has a rifled barrel of 4.5 mm somewhere between the lands and grooves . A pellet usually has a head size of 4.48 - 4.53 mm and a skirt of around 4.58 mm to 4.65 mm to stop it falling down the barrel and make a good air seal in the barrel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 That makes total sense Ultrstu So the softness of the lead allows it mold to the barrel as it fires or is pushed in. The gun really is naff I tried shooting an Ali beer can at point blank range and all it did was put a small dent in even his BB gun had more power and actually went through. That said I think it really is a cheap gun and this one had clearly suffered some abuse in the past.Next experiments will be to see if I can get a 12g shell in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 well done badger you took that well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Please allow me to post you a 3" Mag cartridge and a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 How old are you Brad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: Please allow me to post you a 3" Mag cartridge and a hammer. you can post me one if you like ive got me own hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) O.k I tried to hammer the shot shell in and this happened ! The hammer still hasn't come down there is a big hole in my roof and I seem to be missing some fingers all though I've never been good at counting ! please advise ! I'm 51 by the way Edited March 19, 2020 by BADGER.BRAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 you should know better at your age how are you going to wipe your bum now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 A 16 bore cartridge would have been better. Slightly less resistance offered to the hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 The pedantic side of me is screaming that the primer is still in the cartridge - fire a cartridge outside of a barrel and that's the first thing to hit the speed of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 ahh you have done it then bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Stop it please, I'm laughing so much I'm spilling my whisky..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Good news the hammers come down, the bad news is it's embed in next doors Jaguars wind screen and there is a helicopter with police written on it upside down on the grass outside with a hammer shape hole in it ( just remember it's got nothing to do with me ! I wasn't even in) Edited March 19, 2020 by BADGER.BRAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 This is the best thread all month .🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 SPLUTTTTTTERRRRR !!!!!!!!! I said stop it now !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Why is POLICE written upside down? BRAD - are you on the Wine Gums again? Edited March 19, 2020 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 It reminds me in my younger days when someone hit the end of a 303 with a centre punch, with it was clamped in a tube in a bench vice. You wouldn’t believe how quickly we all hit the floor as the slug ricocheted off the Harrison lathes and around the metal work shop eventually embedding itself in the forge having gone through the side if said forge. Quick lesson learnt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bruno22rf said: Why is POLICE written upside down? BRAD - are you on the Wine Gums again? i took it that the helicopter was upside down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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