88inch Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) I am in need of an air rifle to control vermin (not possible with shotgun). I was thinking of a used Co2 .22. I dont want the expense of buying air bottles . I wont be blasting off lots of pellets. So are Co2 rifles any good. Thanks Edited June 17, 2020 by 88inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 In a word, yes. Just keep an eye on your shot count Nothing worse than lining up a target and only getting a phut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Generally .if you keep your ranges up to around 25 yds then yes perfectly usefull Most will be in .22 cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Hello, what rifle were you thinking of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88inch Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 To be honest I dont know. I haven't used an air rifle since my Diana original many years ago. I am reluctant to spend too much as it wont get a lot of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 There arent many options to be honest . But consider the crosman 2250xl the smk cp2 in rifle form . Or smk cr600w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 hours ago, 88inch said: To be honest I dont know. I haven't used an air rifle since my Diana original many years ago. I am reluctant to spend too much as it wont get a lot of use. Hello, 2 things with co2 , cold weather and loss of co2 if left to long in rifle, the small capsules or the 88 once you put in say a X S 78/79 will empty over time, even if you use pellgun oil, would not a spring air rifle be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88inch Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, 2 things with co2 , cold weather and loss of co2 if left to long in rifle, the small capsules or the 88 once you put in say a X S 78/79 will empty over time, even if you use pellgun oil, would not a spring air rifle be better? The only problem with a springer is the noise factor. One shot and all vermin scarpers. I am told a silencer on a springer does very little as a lot of the noise is caused by the mechanics of the spring. is that the case though. 2 hours ago, Ultrastu said: There arent many options to be honest . But consider the crosman 2250xl the smk cp2 in rifle form . Or smk cr600w Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 88inch said: The only problem with a springer is the noise factor. One shot and all vermin scarpers. I am told a silencer on a springer does very little as a lot of the noise is caused by the mechanics of the spring. is that the case though. Thanks. Depends on what spring rifle and silencer, my HW 95 K was ok, you could look at a cheap PCP and pump like the smk 900 and pump off eBay Edited June 18, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 My son bought a springer that's silenced this week, £125 new complete with scope, almost silent. Killed 2 rats last night. In comparison my unsilenced springer is noisier than his silenced .410 Last gas powered gun we had on the tiny disposable capsules only fired 8 - 10 shots before needing changing. No idea if that's normal as we only borrowed it to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Centrepin said: My son bought a springer that's silenced this week, £125 new complete with scope, almost silent. Killed 2 rats last night. In comparison my unsilenced springer is noisier than his silenced .410 Last gas powered gun we had on the tiny disposable capsules only fired 8 - 10 shots before needing changing. No idea if that's normal as we only borrowed it to try. Hello, what make and model springer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, what make and model springer ? It's a Stoeger, wooden furniture, but no idea of model as it's in his gun cabinet. It came from Neville's of Alfreton. He sent me a picture of the plastic version when he was in the shop but as he was buying other things at the same time he did him the wooden version for same as synthetic. You might get the model from the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Centrepin said: It's a Stoeger, wooden furniture, but no idea of model as it's in his gun cabinet. It came from Neville's of Alfreton. He sent me a picture of the plastic version when he was in the shop but as he was buying other things at the same time he did him the wooden version for same as synthetic. You might get the model from the pic Looks like the X 20 S 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 I had a Co2 airgun. Would never have one ever again. Zero was constantly changing depending on temperature, gas was always running out. You think 50 shots is a lot but it really isn’t. Always back of your mind when lining up a shot, am i getting near my shot count, might it have leaked, is there going to be temperature variation. Lastly very expensive to run. Either save the money and get a pcp with pump or get a good quality springer. Or get a Co2 but id be interested the hear your opinion in two years time. Sorry to be negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Too many variable if you use co2 on live targets, as for the noise factor, the 2 co2 guns that I have owned have been the loudest guns I ever owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88inch Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Depends on what spring rifle and silencer, my HW 95 K was ok, you could look at a cheap PCP and pump like the smk 900 and pump off eBay I still have my old Diana original. there is no thread on the barrel for a silencer. Is there a clamp on variety . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Springers dont make much noise Especially if . Its .22 Long barrel Wooden stock Has a decent silencer attatched . The action noise you hear sounds loud to the shooter as his ear is pressed to the wooden /plastic stock . Walk five yards away and get your mate to shoot it and any action noise is lost . You will hear the air expansion from the barrel ,and a silencer will take care of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 88inch said: I still have my old Diana original. there is no thread on the barrel for a silencer. Is there a clamp on variety . Hello, if you can get the fore sight off and measure the barrel O/D I know a chap who makes silencers, your would just fit over barrel with grub screw to fix tight, these are on par with HW silencers but not expensive Edited June 18, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringDon Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Decent springer is pretty quiet, I heard some where cocking it was louder than firing it. Gas rams are even quieter. You can’t rely on co2 to be consistent if it’s only being picked up intermittently. Think paintball guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88inch Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, if you can get the fore sight off and measure the barrel O/D I know a chap who makes silencers, your would just fit over barrel with grub screw to fix tight, these are on par with HW silencers but not expensive No foresight as tele fitted. it is a Diana model 35 original. I measured the barrel and is 16mm . What about the foresight grooves, do they have to be filled ? Would like a price please and a typical photo of what you pal makes. 8 minutes ago, SpringDon said: Decent springer is pretty quiet, I heard some where cocking it was louder than firing it. Gas rams are even quieter. You can’t rely on co2 to be consistent if it’s only being picked up intermittently. Think paintball guns. I would probably do better with a paint ball gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Posted about my original 35 back in April ("original blast from the past") - had mine serviced shortly after buying it and you can see the accuracy she is capable of - the gun is also very quiet after a period of running in since the service - more than capable of killing Rabbits at normal Air Rifle ranges - AA Diabolo or JSB Exacts seem to work well even though you need to seat them quite firmly. You already have all the gun you need!!! Pic would be nice. Edited June 18, 2020 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 88inch said: No foresight as tele fitted. it is a Diana model 35 original. I measured the barrel and is 16mm . What about the foresight grooves, do they have to be filled ? Would like a price please and a typical photo of what you pal makes. I would probably do better with a paint ball gun! Hello, Matt makes all different types of air rifle silencers, 16 mm slip on, not sure on fore sight grooves. but if you use a scope it's not a problem filing off if need be, go on the uk air gun forum and search for Matt 975 or MWS silencers and send him a message with your Diana 35 info, cheers, I have one on my FX pcp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88inch Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Matt makes all different types of air rifle silencers, 16 mm slip on, not sure on fore sight grooves. but if you use a scope it's not a problem filing off if need be, go on the uk air gun forum and search for Matt 975 or MWS silencers and send him a message with your Diana 35 info, cheers, I have one on my FX pcp on airgun forum.uk but can not find mat 975 or mws. am I on the wrong forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Buy yourself a springer, far better than a CO2 plinker. Plenty on the market and easy to service and keep up to strength. I had a TX200 but that might be above your pocket, that rifle would do anyhting a PCP would and funnily never ran out of puff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 88inch said: on airgun forum.uk but can not find mat 975 or mws. am I on the wrong forum Hello, no he is on the uk airgun forum , his silencers are MWSS brand, try mattw975 Edited June 18, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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