Centrepin Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Has anyone tried these please or opinions on them? Apparently they retail around £12.00s a box before discounts for bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 The power of suggestion.............nice one BASC 😯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, Robertt said: The power of suggestion.............nice one BASC 😯 I don't understand this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 You've not noticed all the recent 'steel' posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 11 hours ago, motty said: I don't understand this post. BASC are plugging steel and Browning advertise this steel shot through BASC. I use steel on clays cos its el cheapo, so by the power of BASC/Browning advertising its has me and I presume others looking at alternatives. So I guess he meant im thick enough to be suckered into an ad. Before Robertt jumps in offended, the last paragraph was tongue in cheek.🤐😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 01/09/2020 at 21:58, Robertt said: You've not noticed all the recent 'steel' posts? I like steel, so that doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 8 hours ago, motty said: I like steel, so that doesn't bother me. Same here, that's why I wondered if anyone had experienced them before I take an hours drive to the nearest stockist to try a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Should be good, it's a Winchester duck cartridge. I'd try them if they were cheaper and for sale local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 lead sans? free plomb? sounds lethal, estimated range 440 yards? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, cookoff013 said: sounds lethal, estimated range 440 yards? 😁 Its Europese, I think it means its pretty fast at 440 of those meter things that are a bit like yards per second. If I could work it out its pretty dam quick per foot.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, figgy said: Should be good, it's a Winchester duck cartridge. I'd try them if they were cheaper and for sale local. This!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Smokersmith said: This!! Yes, but an hours drive to my nearest stockist. Just wondering if anyone had used them. If its worth ordering 1000 or 2000 to get a favorable discount, or no pun intended bite the bullet take the drive and buy 2 boxes for 25 small gold pieces. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I don't think they're going to do anything a Gamebore mammoth, or equivalent offering from Fiocchi, NSI, or RC won't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Surely it must be more sensible to buy what you can get at the local outlets and work with what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Smokersmith said: I don't think they're going to do anything a Gamebore mammoth, or equivalent offering from Fiocchi, NSI, or RC won't do. i hear good things about those RC cartridges, steel atomics. https://www.rc-cartridges.com/Steel Loads-62.html https://www.gilsans.com/cartridges-ammunition-shotgun-cartridges.irc?brand=101074 HP of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Surely it must be more sensible to buy what you can get at the local outlets and work with what you have. We had 3 RFDs. One was broken into, decided to sell up. 2nd was broken into, and no comment as the owner is a nice guy but had his licence revoked. 3rd refuses to stock steel (or plaswad) says he can't sell it. That leaves me a few options, Just Cartridges on line or Nevilles at Alfreton an hour away. Or just use lead fibrewad in 21gram or 28gram Lyalvale express and 32gram Clear Pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) I’m a bit confused as to what you’d use then for. Given the options of Express and Clear pigeon .... a 3” duck cartridge isn’t a sensible alternative to either. Edited September 4, 2020 by Smokersmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Smokersmith said: I’m a bit confused as to what you’d use then for. Given the options of Express and Clear pigeon .... a 3” duck cartridge isn’t a sensible alternative to either. All my RFD sells is the above. I'm looking for an alternative to lead to try, mostly for corvids. My semi does not recycle anything less than a 3" cartridge, (70mm) regardless of charge. Using 28gram Lyalvale, I often find pricked birds, occasionally clear pigeon leaves pricked Corvids but mostly drops pigeon dead. I like to explore my options, not be restricted to what a dealer can buy cheap and move on quick. Some dealers and shooters have fixed opinions on everything and are not willing to broaden their horizons or try new. A bit like me with new electronic technology 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Best stock up somewhere decent when you’re passing then! I’m quite lucky in that I’ve a great dealer just down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 I've been using RC Atomic Steel in 34g 3 shot for a while now. Yes they work very well, but I wouldn't say any better than gamebore steel. They do however feel nicer to shoot than Eley Lightning cartridge. If you can get a decent discount buy a couple of thousand of them, they will be a good cartridge as all Winchester's offerings are. The 440ms is roughly 1450fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: Best stock up somewhere decent when you’re passing then! I’m quite lucky in that I’ve a great dealer just down the road. My RFD has his shop less than a 1000yards away and lives even closer, we're great friends, but he can only order what he can move to maintain a turnover. He's never let me forget buying in Lyalvale 30gram pigeon in plaswad and although I bought 1000 he still has 750 to move. 1 slab in 12 months sold! Since switching to the semi, as they're 65mm they don't recycle. I'm slowly using them when I take the SBS. 10 minutes ago, figgy said: I've been using RC Atomic Steel in 34g 3 shot for a while now. Yes they work very well, but I wouldn't say any better than gamebore steel. They do however feel nicer to shoot than Eley Lightning cartridge. If you can get a decent discount buy a couple of thousand of them, they will be a good cartridge as all Winchester's offerings are. The 440ms is roughly 1450fps. Thank you👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 hours ago, figgy said: I've been using RC Atomic Steel in 34g 3 shot for a while now. Yes they work very well, but I wouldn't say any better than gamebore steel. They do however feel nicer to shoot than Eley Lightning cartridge. If you can get a decent discount buy a couple of thousand of them, they will be a good cartridge as all Winchester's offerings are. The 440ms is roughly 1450fps. Yup. I hear they are great. ATB Coo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry2016 Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 02/09/2020 at 09:46, Centrepin said: BASC are plugging steel and Browning advertise this steel shot through BASC. I use steel on clays cos its el cheapo, so by the power of BASC/Browning advertising its has me and I presume others looking at alternatives. So I guess he meant im thick enough to be suckered into an ad. Before Robertt jumps in offended, the last paragraph was tongue in cheek.🤐😁 Advertise it through BASC? where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted September 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, Terry2016 said: Advertise it through BASC? where? I think it was in a newsletter, (email) I just followed a link on steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 09:33, Centrepin said: All my RFD sells is the above. I'm looking for an alternative to lead to try, mostly for corvids. My semi does not recycle anything less than a 3" cartridge, (70mm) regardless of charge. Using 28gram Lyalvale, I often find pricked birds, occasionally clear pigeon leaves pricked Corvids but mostly drops pigeon dead. I like to explore my options, not be restricted to what a dealer can buy cheap and move on quick. Some dealers and shooters have fixed opinions on everything and are not willing to broaden their horizons or try new. A bit like me with new electronic technology 😄 70mm is 2 3/4". Also, it is you that is pricking the birds, not the cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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