Cosmicblue Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 The UK's roll out of the vaccination program is nothing short of amazing - I wrote here not that many weeks ago that if we achieved a 100k jabs a day that would be remarkable and some days we get 5 times that. Looking forward to July/August when the greater majority of the population will have had the jabs there will be hoards of people desperate to leap on a plane for holidays. I can envisage that much unhappiness lies ahead as it seems unlikely that other destinations with less advanced vaccination programs will be viewed as unsafe with either travel denied or strict quarantine conditions imposed on the travellers return. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hello, while I agree on the vaccination programme there will be UK citizen wanting to go abroad for holidays and business travel, I foresee there will be some countries not as advanced as the UK that will not yet allow tourists to travel there and maybe this will improve in 2022 but for many many UK citizens a holiday will not be on their list of priorities with being furloughed , loosing their jobs , having to sort out their children's education for lost time from school , and those leaving education this year finding employment, it will be a few years yet for this pandemic situation to ease us back into a normal life as we know it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 UK holiday destinations will be rammed if current bookings are anything to go by. As soon as accommodation and caravan sites ( and pubs ) are opened we expect to be invaded! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Also, since "vaccine passports" are currently only under discussion and the vaccine is not yet proven to prevent infection or transmission it seems anyone wanting to holiday abroad will still be required to demonstrate evidence of a negative PCR test within 3 days of travel. So at least in the short term nothing much will have changed for those who have opted for the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Booked for a week hunting in Canada end of October, carried over from last year, so hoping it’s sorted by then or we will be cancelled again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, serrac said: Also, since "vaccine passports" are currently only under discussion and the vaccine is not yet proven to prevent infection or transmission it seems anyone wanting to holiday abroad will still be required to demonstrate evidence of a negative PCR test within 3 days of travel. So at least in the short term nothing much will have changed for those who have opted for the vaccine. The vaccines don't prevent infection but 90% of the time they stop the virus from replicating which means that transmission levels are much lower. Exactly the same as with the flu vaccine. There are no hard and fast stats about reduced transmission rates as yet but the level of hospitalization for the over 70s has fallen dramatically. The reality is that we have to accept that in all probability Covid is here forever and, as with colds and flu, there will always be a level of Covid infections and just like flu, there will be variants moving around the world. The trick is to keep the infection level below the epidemic threshold and that means somewhere around 85-90% of the population need to be vaccinated. Personally I'm not a fan of vaccines generally. I've never had a flu jab and probably never will, but I took the Covid jab because it's not about me, it's about doing the right thing for society and I wish a few more folks from the BAME communities and others with similar selfish beliefs would be a bit more public spirited about vaccination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 hours ago, serrac said: Also, since "vaccine passports" are currently only under discussion and the vaccine is not yet proven to prevent infection or transmission it seems anyone wanting to holiday abroad will still be required to demonstrate evidence of a negative PCR test within 3 days of travel. So at least in the short term nothing much will have changed for those who have opted for the vaccine. The vaccine was never stated to be able to prevent infection nor transmission, the vaccine is to decrease the virulence of the virus, to prevent people being killed or hospitalised, as far as is possible, by the bug. Those who choose not to have the vaccine will have to take their chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scully said: The vaccine was never stated to be able to prevent infection nor transmission, the vaccine is to decrease the virulence of the virus, to prevent people being killed or hospitalised, as far as is possible, by the bug. Those who choose not to have the vaccine will have to take their chances. So then there really is no need for vaccine passports and the like since the vaccine refusers really only endanger themselves? But it looks like they are coming anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, serrac said: So then there really is no need for vaccine passports and the like since the vaccine refusers really only endanger themselves? But it looks like they are coming anyways... Yes. As I’ve said before, if I’m sat next to someone on the tube, bus, plane or in the pub, and it pops up that they haven’t been vaccinated, it won’t be my problem, but entirely theirs. Im against the passport too, on principal, but who is going to oppose it? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deker Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, Scully said: Yes. As I’ve said before, if I’m sat next to someone on the tube, bus, plane or in the pub, and it pops up that they haven’t been vaccinated, it won’t be my problem, but entirely theirs. Im against the passport too, on principal, but who is going to oppose it? 🤷♂️ Exactly, I'm against it too on principle (for entertainment venues) BUT I've had my first vaccine and want life back to normal ASAP (also got Vegas booked for October) so if I have to have a vaccine passport then so be it, I had one years ago when I visited Hong Kong as it had just been handed back to China so was advised to get jabs, a vaccine passport for travel is a storm in a teacup imho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Economies with a high level of tourism will be looking to allow travel to get revenue moving again. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out, but if folks were going abroad last summer, I'd fully expect us to be able to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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