Mr.C Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 OK calm down..... I'm after a recommendation for a strap on gel pad. I've acquired a 1906 smle with a brass butt plate. My collar bone tells a story. That story is currently yellow and green. 25 rounds of PPU's finest left me battered and bruised but grinning. I've seen the Jack pike ones but they just look like a suede shoulder patch. I'm after something with a gel insert that'll let me shoot all day. (targets). Pointers please. Tia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr.C said: OK calm down..... I'm after a recommendation for a strap on gel pad. I've acquired a 1906 smle with a brass butt plate. My collar bone tells a story. That story is currently yellow and green. 25 rounds of PPU's finest left me battered and bruised but grinning. I've seen the Jack pike ones but they just look like a suede shoulder patch. I'm after something with a gel insert that'll let me shoot all day. (targets). Pointers please. Tia Something like this? https://www.musto.com/en_GB/d3o-recoil-shield/80010.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) Try a search for a 'Caldwell Recoil Shield (magnum version?). Designed for shooting from the bench. Had one from Cabelas once but do not know a current local supplier. Alternatively have a look on one of the Fullbore sites. Vaquely remember another brand was Past (?) Edited May 30, 2021 by seeker Memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 Nephew wore a PAST under his skeet vest as a young lad. Worked well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 Butt length is too short. That's why you've got battered and bruised. A gel pad IMHO won't solve the problem. You'll still have that gap between butt and body that will allow the gun to recoil freely back. My advice is to put a rubber slip on pad onto the rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Vector Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 My No. MkIII has a long butt that's still a bit on the short side so I use a Pachmayr Decelerator slip on pad. Works a treat. Also use Sellier & Bellot 180 grain FMJ in preference to 174 grain PPU - I find them a bit more forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Hector Vector said: My No. MkIII has a long butt that's still a bit on the short side so I use a Pachmayr Decelerator slip on pad. Works a treat. This. As I also advised. A slip on pad. Lengthen the weapon not pad out its wielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 Surely recoil pads must have been issued with the rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Vector Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, London Best said: Surely recoil pads must have been issued with the rifle? No. They were made of tough stuff back in the day!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 Just now, Hector Vector said: No. They were made of tough stuff back in the day!!!! Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, London Best said: Surely recoil pads must have been issued with the rifle? We shot both No4’s and SLR’s as lads in the cadets; no pads even at that tender age. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Scully said: We shot both No4’s and SLR’s as lads in the cadets; no pads even at that tender age. 🙂 My point was that not many soldiers asked for a pad in 1914! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, London Best said: My point was that not many soldiers asked for a pad in 1914! Ah, with you. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, London Best said: My point was that not many soldiers asked for a pad in 1914! Our trick as small cadets was to insert the folded beret inside the woolly pully to help absorb some of the kick I was of a size that not only was it difficult to keep the No.4 on target, I'd be bounced rearward somewhat by the recoil Every few shots they'd drag me back to the firing line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted May 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2021 I have a slip on pad that I'll try and it's long enough that I can add some cork sheet packers. As for soldiers in 1914? I'm sure they we're made of sterner stuff than a 60yr old with bony collar bones. Also I doubt they spent much time in the trenches shooting prone in a t-shirt on a baking hot sunny day. Plus, I feel having jonny foreigner shooting back may have adjusted their priorities somewhat. Thanks for all your replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 31, 2021 Report Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) The "trick" was that the SMLE and the No4 had three butt lengths available. The standard length and the short and long length (marked S and L respectively at the heel). There was also for the SMLE a "bantam butt" for those soldiers in battalions consisting on "bantam" men who were below the pre-WWI height requirement. These battalions of "bantam" men were not a success apparently. So there was no "trick" just gun fitting of the rifle with the correct butt length to the soldier. For at that time the soldier had his rifle individually issued to him which he alone then took "ownership" of. Edited May 31, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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