Walker570 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 It just dawned on me, should we be supporting this country. They abuse women, even kill them because they don't wear a scarf, supply our enemies with arms etc etc. I just ate a few dates from a box and saw the origin was Iran. Now should I buy further boxes or anything from this country. Personally I think not. Your views ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Not sure I buy anything from Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 There are many other countries with worse records on human / women's rights. This is a country with many issues, but the current uprising is being fuelled, supported and spun by the usual suspects, who care little for the women's rights issues, but see an opportunity to weaken and destabilise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, treetree said: There are many other countries with worse records on human / women's rights. This is a country with many issues, but the current uprising is being fuelled, supported and spun by the usual suspects, who care little for the women's rights issues, but see an opportunity to weaken and destabilise it. So you seem happy that they kill a young woman for just not wearing a scarf then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Walker570 said: So you seem happy that they kill a young woman for just not wearing a scarf then ? Please point out where I "seem" to be happy at that. Strawman fallacy at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 OK your not happy with that then. I just got the feeling that you supported the regime from your initial remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 If you stopped buying stuff from country's that are in the wrong , What would you eat then its going to be a small list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 You are following your own conscience so it is not really for anyone else to say whether that is right or wrong. France have also supplied our enemies with arms in the past so are you also going to avoid buying anything French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, 243deer said: You are following your own conscience so it is not really for anyone else to say whether that is right or wrong. France have also supplied our enemies with arms in the past so are you also going to avoid buying anything French? Definitely! The French are our biggest enemies. Always were and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, treetree said: There are many other countries with worse records on human / women's rights. Yes there are. And one day their populations will probably have enough of them and seek change. 2 hours ago, treetree said: This is a country with many issues, but the current uprising is being fuelled, supported and spun by the usual suspects, who care little for the women's rights issues, but see an opportunity to weaken and destabilise it. Ah yes, of course, it has to be the US behind anything like this. There can be no change anywhere without the US being responsible. When I change my pants in the morning I blame the CIA. No, it’s not possible for a country to just snap and have enough of a tyrannical regime. Indeed, when you look at revolutions and regime change in years before, well, the Roundheads and the Cavaliers, that was the CIA and their time machine at work. The US are probably responsible for Iran’s average age of population being 31 and that young population being sick of being told what to do by old men stuck in the Stone Age. I bet they have the CIA running all the condom factories in Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mungler said: Yes there are. And one day their populations will probably have enough of them and seek change. Ah yes, of course, it has to be the US behind anything like this. There can be no change anywhere without the US being responsible. When I change my pants in the morning I blame the CIA. No, it’s not possible for a country to just snap and have enough of a tyrannical regime. Indeed, when you look at revolutions and regime change in years before, well, the Roundheads and the Cavaliers, that was the CIA and their time machine at work. The US are probably responsible for Iran’s average age of population being 31 and that young population being sick of being told what to do by old men stuck in the Stone Age. I bet they have the CIA running all the condom factories in Iran. Come on, if you want a civil, reasoned and polite debate them I'm fine with that. The above is just silly nonsense, playing to the gallery. You seem to struggle holding 2 parallel thoughts (as shown by the Ukraine thread); Iran can be as you described in its tyrrany and ruled by men "Stuck in the stone age", but it can also find itself simultaneously on the receiving end of outside 'agitation'. Do you not look at Syria or Libya (oh dear, accusations of 'Whataboutism' incoming) and have misgivings about how Iran will fare if this situation becomes worse? Still, we won't get into who the agitators were in Syria or Libya (because this nation has in no way benefited from the breakdown of both these countries). Edited October 23, 2022 by treetree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 I'm locking this one, i don't think the forum needs another long running thread about a country in crisis with just a few members batting back and fore and not getting anywhere fast. If the OP objects i am happy to chat in PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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