grahamch Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 Has anyone tried these? A pal rates them but others say they are a waste of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 Can you still buy that old stuff ?…. Heavier than steel used it years ago doesn’t do anything different to lead, steel ,Bismuth or tss if your aim is straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I used it quite a lot on the foreshore when it first came out - it worked well enough. It was a dense tungsten alloy and distributed by Lyalvale Express. They stopped selling it a few years ago. If there is a new ‘Hevishot’ available now, I haven’t tried it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Fellside said: I used it quite a lot on the foreshore when it first came out - it worked well enough. It was a dense tungsten alloy and distributed by Lyalvale Express. They stopped selling it a few years ago. If there is a new ‘Hevishot’ available now, I haven’t tried it yet. Never used Hevi-shot but used the other Tungsten one, Tungsten-matrix. Didn’t the Hevi-shot get a reputation for scoring barrels??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, London Best said: Never used Hevi-shot but used the other Tungsten one, Tungsten-matrix. Didn’t the Hevi-shot get a reputation for scoring barrels??? Yes some people talked about this problem - but it never happened to my gun. Whether it was because my barrels were chrome lined ….? No idea for sure. It certainly killed wigeon very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Heavier than lead, and easy to crush with pliers, I opened a cartridge or two to have a look, worked on Greylag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Fellside said: Yes some people talked about this problem - but it never happened to my gun. Whether it was because my barrels were chrome lined ….? No idea for sure. It certainly killed wigeon very well. Thanks for the info. I don’t have ant chrome lined barrels. Not shot a Wigeon now for thirty years! 9 hours ago, islandgun said: Heavier than lead, and easy to crush with pliers, I opened a cartridge or two to have a look, worked on Greylag Isn’t it the Tungsten Matrix which crushes, rather than the Hevi-shot? Last Greylag I shot was with 25 gram of Tungsten Matrix 5’s from a 2 1/2 inch 20 bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, London Best said: Thanks for the info. I don’t have ant chrome lined barrels. Not shot a Wigeon now for thirty years! Isn’t it the Tungsten Matrix which crushes, rather than the Hevi-shot? Last Greylag I shot was with 25 gram of Tungsten Matrix 5’s from a 2 1/2 inch 20 bore. No it was the Lyalvale Express I still have the boxes somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Hi tungsten matrix will crush flat easier than lead . Hevi shot is very hard and won’t crush with pliers. Yes express makes hevi shot Gamebore (Kent cartridges) made tungsten matrix . I’ve had no problem with any of the (hard ) type of shot . I have used them in plastic and cardboard wads with no problems . I have used number five hevi shot, in 20 and 28gauge , not used them in 12 gauge,l found them very good. 32grams of five shot should be a good cartridge. The cartridges with 32 grams of one or three shot had to few pellets the pattern failed before the energy of the pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gas seal said: Hi tungsten matrix will crush flat easier than lead . Hevi shot is very hard and won’t crush with pliers. Yes express makes hevi shot Gamebore (Kent cartridges) made tungsten matrix . I’ve had no problem with any of the (hard ) type of shot . I have used them in plastic and cardboard wads with no problems . I have used number five hevi shot, in 20 and 28gauge , not used them in 12 gauge,l found them very good. 32grams of five shot should be a good cartridge. The cartridges with 32 grams of one or three shot had to few pellets the pattern failed before the energy of the pellets. As far as i remember these express hevi shot didnt just crush they crumbled, tungsten ? they were sintered /shaped there was a fair bit about them on line https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/hevi-shot-usage.315190/ answer six Edited February 16, 2023 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Hi the hevi shot is rough it could cut through the wad. The tungsten matrix is soft. I have 12 gauge cartridges loaded with both types of shot. I take out the shot when l need it and load 28 and 20 gauge cartridges. I enclose photos of both types of shot for you. When the original hevi shot was first sold if it was loaded with the wrong wad the pellets that were fused together would penetrate through the wads. When I shot geese with hevi shot it made a bigger wound than lead because of the shape of the pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Gas seal said: Hi the hevi shot is rough it could cut through the wad. The tungsten matrix is soft. I have 12 gauge cartridges loaded with both types of shot. I take out the shot when l need it and load 28 and 20 gauge cartridges. I enclose photos of both types of shot for you. When the original hevi shot was first sold if it was loaded with the wrong wad the pellets that were fused together would penetrate through the wads. When I shot geese with hevi shot it made a bigger wound than lead because of the shape of the pellets. I have similar boxes but the shot was round with a flat band, because of its softness i wanted to know if i could reload it to be used in my old Wild s/s fowling gun they would have been more like bismuth not like your odd shape [balls 😉] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 The earlier (first launch) hevishot was unevenly shaped - with lumps and bumps etc. They then changed to the ‘waist banded’ type pellets afterwards. Both were denser than lead and tumbled ducks out of the sky very well indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Hi Fellside yes it did change ( shape)to pellets with a band, it’s changed again to a round pellet. The cartridges in the photos are the new improved cartridges, the pellets with the band, it gives the size in mm on the cartridges that would be impossible with the original hevi shot. The pellets in the photo are power shot . Hi islandgun if it’s hevi shot you will be reloading you would need the correct wad and it’s recommended to use open chokes with hevi shot. If it’s ITM pellets it’s more( like )reloading lead and good for loading in 10 and 8 gauge . Another pellet with a band is ITX I don’t know if it’s sold in commercial cartridges. grahamch maybe referring to the original hevi shot, the new improved hevi shot I have is 31 and 34gram loading . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Gas seal said: Hi Fellside yes it did change ( shape)to pellets with a band, it’s changed again to a round pellet. The cartridges in the photos are the new improved cartridges, the pellets with the band, it gives the size in mm on the cartridges that would be impossible with the original hevi shot. The pellets in the photo are power shot . Hi islandgun if it’s hevi shot you will be reloading you would need the correct wad and it’s recommended to use open chokes with hevi shot. If it’s ITM pellets it’s more( like )reloading lead and good for loading in 10 and 8 gauge . Another pellet with a band is ITX I don’t know if it’s sold in commercial cartridges. grahamch maybe referring to the original hevi shot, the new improved hevi shot I have is 31 and 34gram loading . Thanks for that - didn’t know they were selling them again. I bet they cost a king’s ransom….?! I remember when using them years ago, it was hard to make the pattern spread, i.e they were very tight patterning. I’m sure this was due to them being denser than lead. I ended up using cylinder chokes. Even then, they would kill ducks at good ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Gas seal said: Hi Fellside yes it did change ( shape)to pellets with a band, it’s changed again to a round pellet. The cartridges in the photos are the new improved cartridges, the pellets with the band, it gives the size in mm on the cartridges that would be impossible with the original hevi shot. The pellets in the photo are power shot . Hi islandgun if it’s hevi shot you will be reloading you would need the correct wad and it’s recommended to use open chokes with hevi shot. If it’s ITM pellets it’s more( like )reloading lead and good for loading in 10 and 8 gauge . Another pellet with a band is ITX I don’t know if it’s sold in commercial cartridges. grahamch maybe referring to the original hevi shot, the new improved hevi shot I have is 31 and 34gram loading . Ive loaded ITX with good results, my last loads have been TSS 7# which worked brilliantly with 20 and 28 bores. I haven't tried C&G power shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Hi Fellside I don’t think they are made now. I have hevi shot and ITM cartridges and use the shot for reloading. I don’t know if ITM is made any more. I have ITM shot and hevi shot I bought years ago for reloading. The hevi shot cartridges did pattern well with open chokes. I only use these shots for geese. In 2005 the hevi shot cost £28 per kg . I can’t remember what the cartridges price of the cartridges were. Hi islandgun I also loaded tss 7 shot in 28gauge it is brilliant. A lot more cartridges can be made with tss than power shot per kg and the tss lighter load will be a better cartridge. I wonder what the next type of shot will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 I'm just coming to the end of my powershot supply...I have it in #1 and #bb... Kills geese a long way( if I can hit them) iv used it in a Aya super solway choked 3/4 in both barrels... Patterns very well ...won't be buying it again , as I bought this cheap... And iv TSS that I use now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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