steve1066 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 WELSH1 My message was not intended to be racist, it was meant as friendly banter with our Scottish brethren on pigeon watch. If you had noticed I was actually wishing them good luck with their match tonight against the Swiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 Banter or racist ? snowflakes or woke ? perception ? its a minefield best not comment at all lest someone misunderstands . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 8 hours ago, steve1066 said: WELSH1 My message was not intended to be racist, it was meant as friendly banter with our Scottish brethren on pigeon watch. If you had noticed I was actually wishing them good luck with their match tonight against the Swiss. Your comment was not the subject of my post, and is still here, just merged with the thread already running in the euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 4 hours ago, welsh1 said: Your comment was not the subject of my post, and is still here, just merged with the thread already running in the euros. My sincere apologies Welsh1, I thought you were responding to my Scottish thread. Although it did make me think regarding the use of the word Jock. Many Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 16 minutes ago, steve1066 said: My sincere apologies Welsh1, I thought you were responding to my Scottish thread. Although it did make me think regarding the use of the word Jock. Many Thanks Steve Usually i tick the box that tells you it has been moved, but i did it on my phone and my fat fingers must have missed the little tick box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 4 hours ago, welsh1 said: Usually i tick the box that tells you it has been moved, but i did it on my phone and my fat fingers must have missed the little tick box. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 18 hours ago, holloway said: Banter or racist ? snowflakes or woke ? perception ? its a minefield best not comment at all lest someone misunderstands . “Best not comment” isn’t that what the snowflakes and Wokes want, no chance, I was brought up with a backbone. I will have my opinion because that’s my right, I won’t be kept quiet on the back it maybe deliberately misconstrued by someone who’s intentions are to do just that. what I will confirm is that I would never intentionally be racist towards any person, we have enough bigots in this country. But thank you for your interpretation and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 14 minutes ago, steve1066 said: “Best not comment” isn’t that what the snowflakes and Wokes want, no chance, I was brought up with a backbone. I will have my opinion because that’s my right, I won’t be kept quiet on the back it maybe deliberately misconstrued by someone who’s intentions are to do just that. what I will confirm is that I would never intentionally be racist towards any person, we have enough bigots in this country. But thank you for your interpretation and advice. 100 % agree 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozalid Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Ive got a mate who is known as ‘jock’, everyone calls him jock, including his missus! What the hell has happened to us, jock, taffy, paddy, whats the problem? As it happens I can’t think of a nickname for english! Maybe ******? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 The racism 'item' was a certain member's comment in the BASC Maasai thread, being extremely derogatory and mentioning "small boats" and other stuff 😠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 13 hours ago, ozalid said: Ive got a mate who is known as ‘jock’, everyone calls him jock, including his missus! What the hell has happened to us, jock, taffy, paddy, whats the problem? As it happens I can’t think of a nickname for english! Maybe ******? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, JKD said: The racism 'item' was a certain member's comment in the BASC Maasai thread, being extremely derogatory and mentioning "small boats" and other stuff 😠 I read it but didn't see it as derogatory ,certainly not extremely ,but now i ask myself am i racist without even knowing it . Question for you ,given the above would you describe me as racist ? or just ignorant and stupid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 OK,hands up,it was probably me🤔 BUT,the main point i was getting at,was,WHY is my BASC membership (and the other members) money being spent on woke box ticking,when,on the issues that BASC are supposed to represent,us,the members on,they just roll over,accept the "belly rub" and just sell the members down the river. hope that's clarified it👍 LEAD SHOT being the latest major example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 It was a very derogatory comment, followed by unconnected remarks, as above. As has been proven, there's a time and place to ask certain questions 🤔 TBH I didn't think it was racist, just extremely bad taste and totally unnecessary, hence my return comment, which definitely wasn't racist ! Some people need to wind their necks in and think before pressing the reply button 🙄 49 minutes ago, holloway said: I read it but didn't see it as derogatory ,certainly not extremely ,but now i ask myself am i racist without even knowing it . Question for you ,given the above would you describe me as racist ? or just ignorant and stupid ? I can't call you a racist, but your reply doesn't make sense to me ? 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 I didn't read the alleged offending post. So not commenting on the specific post but speaking generally, I think the R word gets thrown around far to much with people being accused when they're clearly not, but simply to such conversations down, which is not only unfair to the individual, bad for freedom of speech and solving issues, but also detracts from the rare cases of real racism that needs stamping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I didn't read the alleged offending post. So not commenting on the specific post but speaking generally, I think the R word gets thrown around far to much with people being accused when they're clearly not, but simply to such conversations down, which is not only unfair to the individual, bad for freedom of speech and solving issues, but also detracts from the rare cases of real racism that needs stamping out. as I watched it unfold truth is zoli made a poor choice of words to make a valid point which was then twisted as racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 12 minutes ago, JKD said: It was a very derogatory comment, followed by unconnected remarks, as above. As has been proven, there's a time and place to ask certain questions 🤔 TBH I didn't think it was racist, just extremely bad taste and totally unnecessary, hence my return comment, which definitely wasn't racist ! Some people need to wind their necks in and think before pressing the reply button 🙄 I can't call you a racist, but your reply doesn't make sense to me ? 🤷♂️ You were clearly offended by the original remark ,fair enough. 2 minutes ago, clangerman said: as I watched it unfold truth is zoli made a poor choice of words to make a valid point which was then twisted as racism Exactly 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, holloway said: You were clearly offended by the original remark ,fair enough. Exactly 👍 Yes indeed, as others were ! But I was flicking around the forum so might have missed some comments. Some were removed, then all replies were removed. Like I said, I don't think Z12G's reply was racist, just very poor taste, unnecessary, and totally negative towards the actual subject of the thread. I had a little dig back regarding West Yorkshire inhabitants, which was an attempt at humour to try to diffuse and distract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 48 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I didn't read the alleged offending post. So not commenting on the specific post but speaking generally, I think the R word gets thrown around far to much with people being accused when they're clearly not, but simply to such conversations down, which is not only unfair to the individual, bad for freedom of speech and solving issues, but also detracts from the rare cases of real racism that needs stamping out. Quite agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 13 hours ago, ozalid said: Ive got a mate who is known as ‘jock’, everyone calls him jock, including his missus! What the hell has happened to us, jock, taffy, paddy, whats the problem? As it happens I can’t think of a nickname for english! Maybe ******? ‘Limey’, but only the Americans tend to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 38 minutes ago, Genghis said: ‘Limey’, but only the Americans tend to use it. I thought it was the Aussies that called us limeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 40 minutes ago, steve1066 said: I thought it was the Aussies that called us limeys Nah, we are Poms to the Aussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 13 hours ago, ozalid said: As it happens I can’t think of a nickname for english! Maybe ******? so you've not watched "Trainspotting" then😁😁😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozalid Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 49 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said: so you've not watched "Trainspotting" then😁😁😁 Ah yes! And very appropriate too, although I have been warned for bypassing the swear filter already today, so I cant mention it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 10 hours ago, JKD said: TBH I didn't think it was racist, just extremely bad taste and totally unnecessary, hence my return comment, which definitely wasn't racist ! Some people need to wind their necks in and think before pressing the reply button 🙄 Free speech, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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