JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 31 minutes ago, old man said: to spend someone else's money Spending someone else's money is the whole basis for Labour policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Spending someone else's money is the whole basis for Labour policy. Maybe just politicians policy John, they don't have any money that doesn't belong to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 6 minutes ago, old man said: Maybe just politicians policy John, they don't have any money that doesn't belong to someone else? Well - that is true, but the theory is politicians set up the conditions to allow the wealth creators to make money ........ some of which is taxed off to fund Gov't spending. However Labour seem to want to take/grab existing wealth and discourage/penalise anyone who wants to save/invest/do well from trying to make any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 12 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: Apparently over 745,000 are now in the UK "awaiting asylum". That is 1% of our population. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13931281/Britain-illegal-migrant-capital-Europe-Shock-new-study-shows-745-000-asylum-seekers-country-accounting-one-cent-total-population.html The Gov't never had any plan, method or means to "smash the gangs". That was an outright lie, told simply to win the election. As others have said above, the 'gangs' exist, operate and thrive outside our jurisdiction - and very probably keep the local officials where they operate 'on side' with bribes. In my view the only real long term solution will be to make it very clear those arriving illegally won't (ever) be allowed to stay or receive a generous, comfortable reception - which is what the smuggling gangs tell them whilst taking their money. The Rwanda scheme was a tiny step that never got beyond planning because (in my view) those UK public bodies charged with operating it - didn't operate it - mainly due to our chronically bad record of them actually doing what the Gov't (and the majority of the UK general public) wants. However, it was a (very small) step towards making the UK a less attractive destination. This is going to get a lot worse because other countries who were previously welcoming (e.g. Germany) are having second thoughts on this. How come Israel is able to process and make a decision on an asylum application in 48 hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Just now, Vince Green said: How come Israel is able to process and make a decision on an asylum application in 48 hours? Because they have an effective government and are not WOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Because they have an effective government and are not WOKE They also approve only about 1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Hello, I despair if they give all of them the right to stay in UK 🤔, Where will they live ? Jobs ? , Look what happened in Germany ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 5 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Where will they live ? Jobs ? Doesn't matter - there is a good chance they will vote Labour and keep Starmer in office. That's what they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Whatever the number it's nothing compared to the 100's of thousands of dependents brought here over the last three years. Dependents from India, Pakistan and Nigeria that are here only because the country voted Brexit. If you voted Brexit you have no room for complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 19 minutes ago, oowee said: Whatever the number it's nothing compared to the 100's of thousands of dependents brought here over the last three years. Dependents from India, Pakistan and Nigeria that are here only because the country voted Brexit. If you voted Brexit you have no room for complaint. What on earth does Brexit have to do with Britain's ridiculous policy of allowing dependent relatives to get visas. It was going on for years before we ever for voted Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 16 minutes ago, Vince Green said: What on earth does Brexit have to do with Britain's ridiculous policy of allowing dependent relatives to get visas. It was going on for years before we ever for voted Brexit 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted October 8 Author Report Share Posted October 8 On 06/10/2024 at 15:18, JKD said: There will be more of 'them' here soon than pensioners in need ! I wonder who the government will look after first ?! 🤔 🤬 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/12/white-children-minority-schools-40-years/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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