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Hi folks

Does anyone have any experience of the above? We have a nice tiled shower, but the grout between the tiles keeps going, so it's getting expensive to keep repairing it. We don't want to go plastic shower tray, so we're considering vinyl. The price seems good, and it should last a while (as I understand it - longer than tiles anyway). I'm guessing it will look a bit rubbish though, not like real tiles? How long does it actually last? We struggle to get more than 3 or 4 years from a set of tiles - one starts to bounce then water gets under.

Cheers. 👍

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The problem is the base, ie the floor. It should be as solid and firm as possible if being tiled over. I'm assuming it's a timber floor,,,, joists, boards etc.

Poorly thought out and installed tiling I'm afraid 🙄

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14 minutes ago, JKD said:

The problem is the base, ie the floor. It should be as solid and firm as possible if being tiled over. I'm assuming it's a timber floor,,,, joists, boards etc.

Poorly thought out and installed tiling I'm afraid 🙄

Could even be the tile cement , not sure if they do a powder form of waterproof tile cement , but like you say if the base is not solid then it is only a matter of time before problems arrive  MM

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3 minutes ago, marsh man said:

Could even be the tile cement , not sure if they do a powder form of waterproof tile cement , but like you say if the base is not solid then it is only a matter of time before problems arrive  MM

Any tiling over a timber and ply floor is usually fitted using flexible tile adhesive. This allows for the slight flexibility in the timber, which is a natural occurrence. Any work similar is all down to the preparation,,,, in this instance the timber and ply[?] floor, and also the possibility of the use of normal tile adhesive, which doesn't flex 😐

And then, like you said,,,, "it's only a matter of time before,,,,,, " 🤦‍♂️

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I laid sheet rubber flooring in our ensuite, over the floorboards.

It is the stuff used on hospital floors.

It has proven to be very hard wearing and flexes with the floor, without cracking.

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Thanks folks.

Floor is fairly rigid I think - it is timber joists with wood on top, but the chap who did the last tiling put a waterproof layer of fibreglass stuff on top. This stops it leaking, which is good - but it seems that the tile adhesive doesn't stick to it all that well...

Does the vinyl stuff stick better? I suppose even if it comes loose from the floor, as long as it's set properly into the wall tiles and sealed, it shouldn't leak still?

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4 hours ago, sandspider said:

Thanks folks.

Floor is fairly rigid I think - it is timber joists with wood on top, but the chap who did the last tiling put a waterproof layer of fibreglass stuff on top. This stops it leaking, which is good - but it seems that the tile adhesive doesn't stick to it all that well...

Does the vinyl stuff stick better? I suppose even if it comes loose from the floor, as long as it's set properly into the wall tiles and sealed, it shouldn't leak still?

It is NOT the vinyl that sticks, it is the glue. If your floor flexes it may well still be a problem.

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If the tiles are moving, they've been laid using the incorrect adhesive, but,,,, the base, however the make up, must be flexing for the tiles to move and the grout to loosen. Vinyl wouldn't show any faults if the base still flexes slightly, but the surface of the fibreglass must be flat and smooth or the vinyl will be susceptible to air bubbles under it.

Best to get in touch with a local floor 'specialist', who can visit and actually see the room and offer more specific advice.

Also a thing to bear in mind, is that a complete change of flooring materials creates its own issues !

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21 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, Ah the floor, presume timber floor board, could you not lay some down hard board ( Pinned ) and use vinyl flooring

Hello, Is this fibreglass stuff a new thing with floors, I have only done the above , Then glue down the Vinyl, and sealing around the Skirting 

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Did you use detra mat under the tiles

on a timber floor we use ply over floor boards screwed down every 6” then a layer of detra matting put down with tile adhesive after sealing the ply with suitable sealer for the adhesive then tile on top with a flexible adhesive

 

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I don't think there was any matting, no... I didn't do it myself, chose someone who I thought knew what he was doing!

On 22/11/2024 at 18:59, JKD said:

If the tiles are moving, they've been laid using the incorrect adhesive, but,,,, the base, however the make up, must be flexing for the tiles to move and the grout to loosen. Vinyl wouldn't show any faults if the base still flexes slightly, but the surface of the fibreglass must be flat and smooth or the vinyl will be susceptible to air bubbles under it.

Best to get in touch with a local floor 'specialist', who can visit and actually see the room and offer more specific advice.

Also a thing to bear in mind, is that a complete change of flooring materials creates its own issues !

Thanks, didn't see this for some reason. Will talk to a vinyl flooring specialist next week.

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21 minutes ago, sandspider said:

I don't think there was any matting, no... I didn't do it myself, chose someone who I thought knew what he was doing!

Thanks, didn't see this for some reason. Will talk to a vinyl flooring specialist next week.

Wet room flooring is a very specific thing and must be installed to a very high spec,,,, to avoid the exact problems you are experiencing.

Fingers crossed it all goes well for you 😉

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1 hour ago, sandspider said:

Thanks!

Anyone know anything about set resin floors? Apparently another option, but I assume quite pricey again, though should last longer than tiles...

Your tiled floor would have survived if it was properly put down.

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