TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 Send him to America as our Ambassador. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv3edv21y7o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 Trumps aide has refered to him as a Moron i smell the dirty little fingers of Blair on this one and the elevatingto the house of lords Lyla Moran.............she is an utter nonentity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 British politics has been a swamp for a long time, it just got a lot smellier under labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 20 Author Report Share Posted December 20 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: Trumps aide has refered to him as a Moron i smell the dirty little fingers of Blair on this one and the elevatingto the house of lords Lyla Moran.............she is an utter nonentity Careful you'll offend someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted December 20 Report Share Posted December 20 (edited) Washington DC and now less so Paris have always been pretty much political gifts of the the British PM (and vice versa their ambassadors to London the gift of US and French Presidents and other nations' Heads of State). I knew the daughter of the Zambian High Commissioner in the late 1980s and when Kenneth Kaunda lost the 1991 Election there he was gone and replaced by someone of the Frederick Chiluba's nomination with a matter of weeks. Don't forget that Lord Halifax was shuffled off to the USA in WWII and we had Joseph Kennedy gifted us for a while by the USA. Both Halifax and Kennedy were not career diplomats but career politicians. Ormsby-Gore in the 1960s was a former Tory MP and Foreign Secretary and again was a political appointment - this was the time of the Cuba Crisis and negotiations about the UK getting Polaris. Peter Jay in the 1970s was sent to Washington by his father-on-law Jim Callaghan! So it is nothing new either from us to them or from them to us. These three postings DC, Paris, London have always pretty much been political. Look at any list former British Ambassadors to the US and the "politicos" in the 20th Century out number the career diplomats. If war is, as someone once said, too important to be left to the Generals so too are foreign relations with the President of the USA too important to be left to the career diplomats. Mandelson isn't being sent there to oversee the issue of replacement travel documents to British tourists who have mislaid their passports he is there because what he says and thinks is pretty much and going to be an echo is what Starmer says and thinks Edited December 20 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 Hello, I see on a TV report he is not liked by Donald Trump ?? so how will that work ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, enfieldspares said: what he says and thinks is pretty much and going to be an echo is what Starmer says and thinks So maybe appointing someone who doesn't think and say that The President Elect, is a danger to the world and a little short of a racist, would be a better choice...... Diplomacy - the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and tactful way. Diplomatic - having or showing an ability to deal with people in a sensitive and tactful way. Edited December 21 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 10 hours ago, Rewulf said: British politics has been a swamp for a long time, it just got a lot smellier under labour. Yep, the whole situation seems smellier than an open sewer irrespective of the colour of the content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Diplomatic - having or showing an ability to deal with people in a sensitive and tactful way. President Reagan in 1987 sent Edward Perkins as US Ambassador to P W Botha's South Africa. The Americans also can be quite blunt in the message a particular appointment is intended to convey. Edited December 21 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 21 Report Share Posted December 21 5 hours ago, Newbie to this said: So maybe appointing someone who doesn't think and say that The President Elect, is a danger to the world and a little short of a racist, would be a better choice...... Diplomacy - the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and tactful way. Diplomatic - having or showing an ability to deal with people in a sensitive and tactful way. Are you describing Diane Abbott ?.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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