Miserableolgit Posted Saturday at 12:57 Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:57 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv381edvg9o "Wildlife TV presenter Chris Packham and former Green Party MP Caroline Lucas have quit as president and vice-president of the RSPCA after a campaign group alleged animal cruelty at some of the charity's approved list of abattoirs. Animal Rising released footage from facilities as part of its investigation into the RSPCA's "Assured Scheme" which certifies farms, food producers and food retailers that meet its specific animal welfare standards. In response, the RSPCA said it takes allegations of poor animal welfare "incredibly seriously". The charity said it was "simply not true" that it had not taken urgent action, adding unannounced visits had been significantly increased, and use of bodyworn cameras and CCTV was also being explored. In its most recent investigation, Animal Rising singled out four abattoirs where it said "experts found systemic animal cruelty". It said its investigators had found that "in one slaughterhouse 85% of pigs were stunned incorrectly, leaving animals conscious during slaughter, and in another 96% of cows were prodded with an electric goad, a practice banned by the RSPCA, and 46% of cows showed clear signs of panic or escape behaviours. "There was also frequent verbal and physical abuse from workers, and animals watching in terror and panic as other animals were killed or stunned in front of them." In a statement posted on Animal Rising's website, Packham said he was prioritising his "love for animals above all else" and was stepping down immediately, following the "irrefutable evidence of abuse uncovered". He accused the RSPCA of making "no meaningful change" after "years of raising concerns about salmon farming and tirelessly pushing for reform within the Assured Schemes". "I believe the charity has lost sight of its mandate to protect all animals from cruelty and suffering," he added. In a separate statement, Lucas said: "The recent horrific revelations of abuse at RSPCA-approved slaughterhouses, filmed undercover by Animal Rising, were the final straw for me. "The systemic cruelty exposed was unbearable to witness. "While the RSPCA's response was to suspend the implicated facilities and launch yet another investigation, they failed to confront the deeper flaws of the scheme itself. "This approach not only fails to uphold their own standards but also risks misleading the public and legitimising cruelty." In a statement, the RSPCA said: "We agree with Chris and Caroline on so many issues and have achieved so much together for animals but we differ on how best to address the incredibly complex and difficult issue of farmed animal welfare. "We have discussed our work to drive up farmed animal welfare standards openly at length with them on many occasions and it is simply not true that we have not taken urgent action. "We took allegations of poor welfare incredibly seriously, launching an independent review of 200 farms which concluded that it was 'operating effectively' to improve animal welfare. "We are taking strong steps to improve oversight of welfare, implementing the recommendations in full including significantly increasing unannounced visits, and exploring technology such as bodyworn cameras and CCTV, supported by £2m of investment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dessyb Posted Saturday at 13:06 Report Share Posted Saturday at 13:06 he will 😂not be missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedward Posted Saturday at 13:15 Report Share Posted Saturday at 13:15 Where’s do the RSPCA sit regarding halal and kosher slaughter ? Tedward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted Saturday at 13:34 Report Share Posted Saturday at 13:34 Nowhere - looking at these might lose support from their followers. Easier to just ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted Saturday at 15:13 Report Share Posted Saturday at 15:13 Brown Envelopes still in use i see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted Saturday at 15:30 Report Share Posted Saturday at 15:30 2 hours ago, Tedward said: Where’s do the RSPCA sit regarding halal and kosher slaughter ? Tedward. Religious requirements, sadly accepted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet11-87 Posted Saturday at 15:33 Report Share Posted Saturday at 15:33 (edited) Well people want cheap meat and will kick off if prices went up, but want animals to live full natural lives and then die in their sleep before they get to the plate. 68 million of us on this island that need feeding and for some reason we shooters are villainized. obviously we cant feed the whole population out of shooting but we take out our requirements and pressure off the factory slaughterhouses. idk about anyone else but if my options were an intensive farm followed by the slaughterhouse, pulled to bits by a predator, starvation, infection/disease or shot i know what option id take. old age is off the table for animals unless its a pet Edited Saturday at 15:35 by Sweet11-87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedward Posted Saturday at 20:08 Report Share Posted Saturday at 20:08 “Religious requirements, sadly accepted here.” so religion trumps animal welfare, surely it’s either humane or inhumane ? confused.Tedward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 18 hours ago, Tedward said: “Religious requirements, sadly accepted here.” so religion trumps animal welfare, surely it’s either humane or inhumane ? confused.Tedward. There seems no confusion just a factual situation? For the record I don't like it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedward Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago Hi OM, probably me being overly simplistic, my view is that in law something is either right or wrong - hence the reason for that law. If “humane” in this instance requires initial stunning of the animal, then that’s it in black and white. Anything else by default is “inhumane” and illegal. Perhaps I’m just not into political and religious nuances, and that’s why I’m confused ? cheers, Tedward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Tedward said: Hi OM, probably me being overly simplistic, my view is that in law something is either right or wrong - hence the reason for that law. If “humane” in this instance requires initial stunning of the animal, then that’s it in black and white. Anything else by default is “inhumane” and illegal. Perhaps I’m just not into political and religious nuances, and that’s why I’m confused ? cheers, Tedward. To seek a definitive definition of "humane" you may need the infinite wisdom of Methuzalah? Then the courts will disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago I absolutely fail to see how stunning an animal first is more humane than direct slaughter with a captive bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, London Best said: I absolutely fail to see how stunning an animal first is more humane than direct slaughter with a captive bolt. Sorry, not following your train there sir, please elucidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 16 hours ago, Tedward said: Hi OM, probably me being overly simplistic, my view is that in law something is either right or wrong - hence the reason for that law. If “humane” in this instance requires initial stunning of the animal, then that’s it in black and white. Anything else by default is “inhumane” and illegal. Perhaps I’m just not into political and religious nuances, and that’s why I’m confused ? cheers, Tedward. Interesting information from the Humane Slaughter Association and Prof Temple Grandin from USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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