Dave-G Posted Monday at 16:34 Report Share Posted Monday at 16:34 I only use rifles for rabbits and fox - or more precisely I don't do any 'shoot' activities of any kind. I have to stay away from a permission during the shoot season. Am I correct to assume that means I can resume on Feb 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted Monday at 16:42 Report Share Posted Monday at 16:42 yes i have one farm i shoot and when the game season is over then i can go back in.been like that for 20 years, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Monday at 16:48 Report Share Posted Monday at 16:48 12 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I only use rifles for rabbits and fox - or more precisely I don't do any 'shoot' activities of any kind. I have to stay away from a permission during the shoot season. Am I correct to assume that means I can resume on Feb 2nd? check with the keeper ...as he might need some extra time catching up for layers ..and he wont want them scattered...before he trys and catches them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted Monday at 16:54 Author Report Share Posted Monday at 16:54 5 minutes ago, ditchman said: check with the keeper ...as he might need some extra time catching up for layers ..and he wont want them scattered...before he trys and catches them Good thought my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted Monday at 17:03 Report Share Posted Monday at 17:03 Hello, What you hoping to shoot Dave, ?? I like to have a go if the weathers not to cold , Blackies mainly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted Monday at 17:19 Author Report Share Posted Monday at 17:19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, What you hoping to shoot Dave, ?? I like to have a go if the weathers not to cold , Blackies mainly We're after rabbits for raw feeding sisters two GSD's but will take occasional opportune sub 100 yard HMR range fox too for the keeper. Edited Monday at 17:19 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted Monday at 17:20 Report Share Posted Monday at 17:20 (edited) 34 minutes ago, ditchman said: check with the keeper ...as he might need some extra time catching up for layers ..and he wont want them scattered...before he trys and catches them Erm! After 1 February this is illegal. That it is done, by some, doesn't make it no less unlawful. • When can I catch-up? In England and Wales catching-up is legal until the end of the shooting season (1st February). In Scotland it is legal until 28th February. Catching-up is illegal after these dates. https://www.sacs.org.uk/news/catching-up-pheasants-an-update Edited Monday at 17:22 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Monday at 17:53 Report Share Posted Monday at 17:53 (edited) 33 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Erm! After 1 February this is illegal. That it is done, by some, doesn't make it no less unlawful. • When can I catch-up? In England and Wales catching-up is legal until the end of the shooting season (1st February). In Scotland it is legal until 28th February. Catching-up is illegal after these dates. https://www.sacs.org.uk/news/catching-up-pheasants-an-update and im sure every keeper adhears to this rule ..........religously on the cock days we shot cocks and every low flying hen bird that came our way providing they were safe and the picker-ups were out of the way..........reason being if they were lazy fliers they would pass their bad genes onto the nexxt generation...which was not wanted Edited Monday at 17:56 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted Monday at 18:05 Report Share Posted Monday at 18:05 At the end of the day you don't want to presume anything without consulting the land owner or if he have a full time keeper then consult him first , if you are in regular contact with either then you can discuss if there are any changes since you last went shooting on his / there land. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted Monday at 18:30 Report Share Posted Monday at 18:30 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ditchman said: And im sure every keeper adhears to this rule ..........religously I think maybe they do now. But back way back when I am equally sure that they didn't. Scotland seems to be much more commonsense on this. Just as they, Scotland, are much more commonsense on the use of lead shot for wildfowl. 39 minutes ago, ditchman said: On the cock days we shot cocks and every low flying hen bird A lot of sense in that. +1. It's odd that in pheasant shooting we leave the low birds (or the birds even that run back) and shoot the high birds. So killing the gene pool of birds that have the characteristics we want and letting live on to breed the characteristics we don't want! Edited Monday at 18:33 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted Monday at 20:56 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:56 Hmmm🤔.. 2 hours ago, ditchman said: and im sure every keeper adhears to this rule ..........religously on the cock days we shot cocks and every low flying hen bird that came our way providing they were safe and the picker-ups were out of the way..........reason being if they were lazy fliers they would pass their bad genes onto the nexxt generation...which was not wanted A low flying hen bird today, could be a screamer tomorrow, I could be totally wrong, but a hen flushed on a high bank in a wood, would be a different bird being flushed at the last edge of the wood ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Monday at 21:10 Report Share Posted Monday at 21:10 7 minutes ago, Krico woodcock said: Hmmm🤔.. A low flying hen bird today, could be a screamer tomorrow, I could be totally wrong, but a hen flushed on a high bank in a wood, would be a different bird being flushed at the last edge of the wood ?? understand what you say.....ive seen "decent" (so called) shoots with very poor flying birds.....we are not blessed with launching platforms (hills)...in norfolk....and the thing these shoots have in common is they continue to catch up and breed from poor stock ...the lives of these shoots are about 5 seasons before folk get wise to the poor quality birds..... then the shoot folds...and starts up again under a new owner and the birds fly like hell.... to make ends meet in seach of the buck$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Monday at 21:43 Report Share Posted Monday at 21:43 Are those black&white spanners KRICO WOODCOCK ?......on your avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted Monday at 22:34 Report Share Posted Monday at 22:34 44 minutes ago, ditchman said: Are those black&white spanners KRICO WOODCOCK ?......on your avatar Yes sir.. all them are black and white, I have a very dark liver and white young bitch too, since that snap was taken.. 👆👆is this you ditchman with your springers at one time?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Monday at 22:53 Report Share Posted Monday at 22:53 17 minutes ago, Krico woodcock said: Yes sir.. all them are black and white, I have a very dark liver and white young bitch too, since that snap was taken.. 👆👆is this you ditchman with your springers at one time?? they are sprokers pic taken about 20 years ago at xmas eve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted Tuesday at 12:08 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:08 They look in great condition, and very inquisitive as to what your doin, look very smart dog's 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Tuesday at 12:21 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:21 11 minutes ago, Krico woodcock said: They look in great condition, and very inquisitive as to what your doin, look very smart dog's 👍 you know what spanners are like...they have got to be into everything.....all i was doing was peeling sprouts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted Tuesday at 18:52 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:52 6 hours ago, ditchman said: you know what spanners are like...they have got to be into everything.....all i was doing was peeling sprouts..... They definitely seem to be having a great time, along with the terriers skulking about..Did you breed them yourself? I have same line of springer for 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Tuesday at 19:30 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 19:30 26 minutes ago, Krico woodcock said: They definitely seem to be having a great time, along with the terriers skulking about..Did you breed them yourself? I have same line of springer for 30 years. im not brave or clever enuff to chose breeding lines.........i used to go on alot of different shoots over the years and i watched various dogs working and when i saw a dog that worked well and had style i made inquries as to wether the owner would sell me a pup or 2 if they were put across a bitch.... the spanners the father was a several time FTC pure black cocker called Flash (as it had a white flash on its head) the Dam was proberly the ugliest yellow and white springer i had ever seen...but she threw the loveliesst pups i had everseen.....thats how i ended up with 3 generations of spanners....the terriers came from an old gamekeeper i knew and my Labs came from a good friend of mine that is more or less how i aquired my dogs over decades... all gone now ...and i desperatly miss their company and friendship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted Tuesday at 22:35 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 22:35 3 hours ago, ditchman said: im not brave or clever enuff to chose breeding lines.........i used to go on alot of different shoots over the years and i watched various dogs working and when i saw a dog that worked well and had style i made inquries as to wether the owner would sell me a pup or 2 if they were put across a bitch.... the spanners the father was a several time FTC pure black cocker called Flash (as it had a white flash on its head) the Dam was proberly the ugliest yellow and white springer i had ever seen...but she threw the loveliesst pups i had everseen.....thats how i ended up with 3 generations of spanners....the terriers came from an old gamekeeper i knew and my Labs came from a good friend of mine that is more or less how i aquired my dogs over decades... all gone now ...and i desperatly miss their company and friendship Its sounds and looks like you had a great bond and rapport with your dogs. And I'm sure you got the very best out of them. And they were given a great life in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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