ditchman Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, islandgun said: I'm sure I wouldn't be able to endure it. The films of the dead in mass graves and the written word of survivors....is enough for me me to......cant think of a single reason as to why i would want to visit the death camps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 There has been a really good documentary on lately about the son of the “Tattooist of Auschwitz” Very emotional. He visited the above and constantly broke down as the series told the true story of how his mother and father met there. He did say at the end that at least he is more at peace now The series and the follow up documentary should be compulsory watching in school so that nobody with at least one brain cell can deny it ever happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 56 minutes ago, shaun4860 said: There has been a really good documentary on lately about the son of the “Tattooist of Auschwitz” Very emotional. He visited the above and constantly broke down as the series told the true story of how his mother and father met there. He did say at the end that at least he is more at peace now The series and the follow up documentary should be compulsory watching in school so that nobody with at least one brain cell can deny it ever happened Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 hours ago, ditchman said: me to......cant think of a single reason as to why i would want to visit the death camps.. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted Tuesday at 09:20 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:20 On 31/01/2025 at 17:34, gsalmons said: Krakow easily the prettiest/ cleanest place we ever been too. My boss, who is Polish, said as much yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Thursday at 10:37 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:37 On 04/02/2025 at 09:20, Penelope said: My boss, who is Polish, said as much yesterday. slighty on a tangent ....litter and graphitty is a real bugbear of mine.....one of the reasons i moved to Dersingham is because of the lack of it...ive been here for 3 years now and have yet to see a peice of litter or graphity ....i was also lucky when i lived in cantley ..the same there as well apart from lumps of sugarbeet on the road.... im sickened with the ammount of disgusting trash i see on the verges of dual carrigways and A roads in Norfolk.....nappies ...chateaux laybay ....fast food wrappers....bloody animals rant over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted Thursday at 10:55 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:55 16 minutes ago, ditchman said: slighty on a tangent ....litter and graphitty is a real bugbear of mine.....one of the reasons i moved to Dersingham is because of the lack of it...ive been here for 3 years now and have yet to see a peice of litter or graphity ....i was also lucky when i lived in cantley ..the same there as well apart from lumps of sugarbeet on the road.... im sickened with the ammount of disgusting trash i see on the verges of dual carrigways and A roads in Norfolk.....nappies ...chateaux laybay ....fast food wrappers....bloody animals rant over... Agreed. I hate it too; there's simply no need for either. The trains I commute into London on are quite often adorned with gang tags and graffiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted Thursday at 15:34 Report Share Posted Thursday at 15:34 I can’t understand why people wouldn’t want to visit such a profoundly moving site. What happened there still affects our lives today - look at the hate marches in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted Thursday at 15:45 Report Share Posted Thursday at 15:45 Riviera Travel based in Burton on Trent. https://www.rivieratravel.co.uk/escorted-tours/krakow-tour On 27/01/2025 at 09:30, steve_b_wales said: I asked about the above in the past but cannot find the post. My wife and I would like to do this tour. Can anyone recommend a company from the UK that organises this? I know there are many. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted Thursday at 16:08 Report Share Posted Thursday at 16:08 On 31/01/2025 at 23:34, ditchman said: me to......cant think of a single reason as to why i would want to visit the death camps.. I dont really see it as an "attraction", my eldest daughter visited years ago and said it was full of school children laughing and taking selfies. Nothing against anyone that wants to go but not for me - too emotional in my older age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted Thursday at 17:34 Report Share Posted Thursday at 17:34 Hi Steve, several years back i went to Poland with friends on our motorbikes, we visited this camp, it was eery very silent also i have been to the village in France- Oradour-Sur- Glane where the SS murdered 600+ men women & children it was also deadly quiet, no bird song, spooky. atb Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted Thursday at 17:46 Report Share Posted Thursday at 17:46 (edited) As a young man I was a guest of the 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards aka "VD and Gonnorrhea" and the first day, immediately after breakfast was taken to Belsen. With, encouraged as we set off from barracks, by the words of the Sergeant leading the visit of "This morning we are going to take you to see what these b's are really like. And never forget, gentlemen, that is why we are here." Edited Thursday at 17:46 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted Thursday at 19:06 Report Share Posted Thursday at 19:06 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: As a young man I was a guest of the 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards aka "VD and Gonnorrhea" and the first day, immediately after breakfast was taken to Belsen. With, encouraged as we set off from barracks, by the words of the Sergeant leading the visit of "This morning we are going to take you to see what these b's are really like. And never forget, gentlemen, that is why we are here." I was told something similar when I was young by a chap who had been in the army and present at the liberation of Belsen. He had a number of bring back souvenir's [SS, HY, daggers, medals, insignia etc] that he let me see. My wife and I visited camp Westerbork* in Holland with some Dutch friends who had lived through the war and had maintained an interest in the era including one gentleman who's immediate family had family members shipped off from Westerbork to one of the death camps never to be seen again after the germans discovered that they had sheltered a couple of Allied airmen. I can't recall the specific details of how the chap evaded being sent with his family but walking around the museum at Westerbork with him - the first time he had ever been and he had opened up about his feelings - was one of the saddest and darkest days I can recall. Horrible stories. I do not wish to visit another place like that again. One of my family had a relative who lived opposite who had lost his family in a concentration camp, he was there too and had showed me the number tattooed on his arm on more than one occasion. He lived a quiet life postwar, and had a 'girlfriend' who used to come to tea and occasionally stay over at the weekends. He would talk of wartime his experiences in quite a matter of fact way, I wish I could remember more. Some years later we hard that he had gone to the coast, got changed into swimming trunks and had swum out to sea, never to be seen again. A note left with his clothes on the beach indicated that he had eventually found the memories of the camps and the family and friends he lost so painful that he had indeed purposefully swum out and never intended to return. *A temporary collection and transit camp for Jews before they were sent to the concentration camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted Thursday at 19:08 Report Share Posted Thursday at 19:08 1 hour ago, happyshooter said: also i have been to the village in France- Oradour-Sur- Glane where the SS murdered 600+ men women & children it was also deadly quiet, no bird song, spooky. atb Brian That village is the opening scene of the first episode of The World at War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted Thursday at 19:26 Report Share Posted Thursday at 19:26 Hi Flashman, as someone who is interested in military history and an old regular soldier, the way the current world is going i fear for mankind right wing thinking is taking over god help us all. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted Thursday at 20:54 Report Share Posted Thursday at 20:54 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flashman said: That village is the opening scene of the first episode of The World at War. Yes. It is very powerfully done. And also in the final episode of that series title "Remember". As a kid I remember this. Indeed there were then in the 1960s, just, still men who had fought in WWI and I can remember one of the I was told stories well. The BBC documentary has been later much criticised. I do note though that then you could simply go and buy revolvers (if they had any in!) without licence. https://youtu.be/8M9g2Y9HonQ Edited Thursday at 20:57 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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