mikky Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 anyone else have to fill these forms in at work...put mine in the bin...no doubt that will be another bollicking when my boss finds out....and i have just been told i have to attend a seminar where a bloke is coming to show us how to carry a box correctly....after 25 ffen yearsof warehousing i think i have the hang of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 after 25 ffen yearsof warehousing i think i have the hang of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 No, if he says you got it wrong in any way shape or form the company, who paid him/her remember , will take you to the cleaners, if you get a RSI. .........and they call it Human resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) My appraisal comes the same time as my salary increace, yum yum, its never enough though Edited February 5, 2008 by dazzyboi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 In some situations appraisals are absolutely essential to staff development and as a manager of quite a few staff I really believe in my companies system. However, globally applying the same system to everyone isn't right - I can't imagine what there might be to appraise in certain jobs so I am with you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yeh, I've yet to see a space for "I'm quite happy where I am, putting in a hard days graft as long as I'm treated and rewarded properly, thank you very much". It's all short, mid & long term career aspirations; achievements to date; development aspirations; leadership essentials; high-performance behaviours; blah de blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 In certain jobs - yes these are the right way to check development and decide what future development needs are. In the same way that end tests used to be the way to check an apprentice's level adn standard of work and progress. Schools, colleges, unis etc all have their own means or manner of checking and assessing stages. But I agree, what use or purpose do they serve if the person doesn't want to go further than the stage they are at and they are blooming good at what they do? Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Oh yes, annual reports, 6 monthly reports, appraisals, reports for the reports Have to do them all!! Your employer has to train you in manual handling by law mate, due to the nature of your employment, HASAWA 1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Mrs. Mungler when she worked for a large American Bank had to attend all manner of rubbish seminars and training days. The funniest one was a "diversity day" where for the whole day you couldn't refer to gender. For example, instead of saying "I have a mum and dad and a sister" the 'new age' translation was "I come from a parental unit of two and have a sibling". Top drawer load of old cock - you couldn't make it up. Mind you staff training is a great gravy train to hop on. Money for monkeys. Where or where has common sense gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 a few of our guys have a similar problem, what they (and maybe you) fail to appreciate is the bigger picture and with respect the resentment comes mostly from the very people who should be leading the younger new starts, comments that I know my job may well be true but don’t wash with many customers and insurance companies and if you don’t get on board you can get left behind or miss out on promotion or other opportunities, to which most of that ilk reply “stuff it†In our business appraisals help to demonstrate to new clients the ability of our folk having been independently assessed by another customer when contracted to them, it’s a great selling point and ultimately the guys who turn them in are promoting there own merits and helping me to win contracts that they will earn from, from that view point they work for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 However, Most salaries are linked to performance which are judged from appraisals these days. Basically in a nutshell- Get a good appraisal and you get a good pay rise. The days of the good old inflationary rise are a thing of the past- I know many people who don't get a rise for a long while because of poor performance. I regularly take appraisal's on behalf of staff in the engineering industry, and it does not make you very popular when you have to be quite blunt with employee's who think they are ok when they are not..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 However, Most salaries are linked to performance which are judged from appraisals these days. Basically in a nutshell- Get a good appraisal and you get a good pay rise. The days of the good old inflationary rise are a thing of the past- I know many people who don't get a rise for a long while because of poor performance. I regularly take appraisal's on behalf of staff in the engineering industry, and it does not make you very popular when you have to be quite blunt with employee's who think they are ok when they are not..... have to be blut......not like at all Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I am a great believer in staff appraisals if they are used as a positive tool to provide training and opportunity to employees. They quickly fall into disrepute if they are used as an annual or biannual opportunity for weak Management to bash the employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) The system we work with means the employee should get no surprises at either appraisal time or when submitting their year grade for development (tied to their wage rise - or not!). The appraisals can be done either monthly (overkill unless a very poor performing member of staff) or they can be done every quarter (preffered option). If staff are interested in their development and how they are doing - they will take an interset and be involved in their appraisal. If old school, they will be too busy telling you how things used to be done when men were men and horse**** used to dent the road whenever it fell to ground! Appraisal is a good way to reward and let staff know how well they are doing or to pull them up short and see the error of their ways. Good or bad, it is the way of the world now. Pushkin Edited February 7, 2008 by Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I think some people look forward to these and some do think they are a waste of time, especially when you try to look at future training but for various reasons you are unable to deliver this to them.... At present I have approx 40 of these to carryout with my guys, but it is always good to be able to set some time aside to have a 1 to 1 with each guy, funny but weatherspoons is always a good meeting place for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I had an appraisal in a Wetherspoons once. I think it was a good one, it was certainly the longest appraisal interview I've ever had. As I got a decent pay rise out of it that year I guess I must have bought the beers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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