Ferret Master Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hi, I am getting to the stage where I really need to think about what I want to do in later life but I am some what un-decisive about the whole matter. I have considered being a vet but I really don't want to go to uni for years and years and also I know I would probably become too involved with the job and never be able to leave it alone when I go home in the evenings if you know what I mean as the job becomes your life. Jobs such as keepering appeal to me but the low pay is what puts me off. A few people have suggested estate management to me and I would like to know more about what this envolves and what qualifications you need. If anyone could give me any advice or have any suggestions it would be appreciated. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 So, you don't want something that might impinge on your life too much, but is well paid and involves the countryside? If you find it let me know, ICT can kiss it in favour of this nirvana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Theres and old saying that farm and estae managers are the first to go when things get tight financially and the first to blame, Not my cup of tea but Ive always enjoyed working on the front line so to speak. Id also echo Pins, If your main goal is money then you wont enjoy all the days soaked to the skin etc especially with rural wadges. Edited February 5, 2008 by paulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 So, you don't want something that might impinge on your life too much, but is well paid and involves the countryside? If you find it let me know, ICT can kiss it in favour of this nirvana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Same position as you really, FM, so id like to see how this topic turns out. God nows why, but I have begun some courses that would (if I stick to it) lead to the option of working for the Police. Always been interested in a job where I dont sit behind a PC, as im too restless, and I need to get out and about a bit. Sure there is plenty of paperwork, but there is also plenty of other activities. My reserve backup plan if all else fails, is to work for the Army for a while. Untill then I will keep gaining qualifications in different areas, and keep on working wherever I can to earn some pennies to get me somewhere when I do have a plan. Good luck, and make sure whatever you choose, is from your heart. You will spend the next 40 or more years of your life in employment, so choose it carefully, as its hard to change later. Although Uni may seem tough now, most people in Uni have a wail of a time, and get a good salary with their degree after. So its worth it if you can put up with the student loans, and long hours. I may go into Uni to take a degree in Policing, or Public Services if I like this course im on now. My current course stands me a chance of working as a PCSO (police community support officer) but I would prefer to be a PC. Who knows, mite end up doing something compeltley different All the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Why not combine both? The college up here does a course in Gamekeeping/estate management. You get a qualification and at the end of it you will know whether or not it will suit you as a career. There is more to life than money, job satisfaction goes a long way! Give me a job that will let me go out with a shotgun after work everyday and I will take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 If you want good money you go two ways 1) You go to university and learn about it on bits of paper with little practical experience. Then come out of it into management and having little experience in practical skills and possibly losing your job. 2) You work from the bottom upwards in a company, gaining certificates eg. NPTC and a lot of practical experience. This will help later when dealing with problems. You cant expect to get a good paid job straight away you need to earn it. Thats why Employers are looking abroad for cheap labour. If I was an employer and saw two candidates, one coming from Uni and the other one coming from the same trade, I know which one I would choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 get on an apprenticeship and get a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 FM Look at it two ways IMO - either select a career and apply yourself to make the best living you can and enable you to spend your spare time and your money enjoying your hobbies OR select a career which is built around your hobbies and accept that you may not earn the highest salary you can but you are doing what you love. If you're very, very lucky you'll end up in a well paid job doing what you love but that, my friend, would make you the exception rather than the norm. There is no right or wrong here but think long and hard and consider what kind of family environment you want to live in as you get older. For goodness sake don't go off to University and take on some worse than useless degree to kill a few years until you decide what you want to do; if you go to Uni do a degree which will lead you into a field of employment on graduation. Good luck WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I may go into Uni to take a degree in Policing, or Public Services if I like this course im on now. My current course stands me a chance of working as a PCSO (police community support officer) but I would prefer to be a PC. Who knows, mite end up doing something compeltley different All the best! Join the specials mate, you might not get paid, but you get the powers to chase chavs with CS spray and battons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 So, you don't want something that might impinge on your life too much, but is well paid and involves the countryside? If you find it let me know, ICT can kiss it in favour of this nirvana! I found myself thinking something very similar while sitting in after school ICT lessons today. These are completely pointless lessons with repetitive bits of coursework doing everything in 'theory' in a word document rather than actually doing it. Yet my parents say 'You need ICT in everything these days if you want a good job.' It's not so much a case of impinging on my life but I know with being a vet I would never want to leave the practice to go on holiday and I would always be getting up at 3am because someones cat has eaten something it shouldn't have and is choking. I have no objections to hard work providing I enjoy it. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Thank-you for all the replies so far! Edited February 5, 2008 by Ferret Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 For a career involving a lot of time outdoors, on the ground, so to speak and starting at (currently) just under £23k after training (or during training for graduates) looky >>here<< and pay & benefits >>here<<. You'll need a sense of humour, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Why don't you become a Pole they seem to be able to walk into just about any job now a days! Lost out on another job today SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Serious note now. If you can, get a degree - any degree, it matters not. Mrs Lefty works for a Blue Chip UK PLC and wouldn't stand a chance of getting her job now, because she's not a graduate. HR depts love scripting job spec's which say "Graduate level only". I've met several numpties, all with degrees, that her firm has employed and honestly, I wouldn't let them supervise making toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 FM, As had been said don't go to Uni without thinking about what degree you want to do and what you want out if it. Yes, you'll have a whale of a time getting through the course but think of the end point. I didn't - I've got an Arts degree and work in IT - go figure that one. Take a look at all the info you can get hold of. Colleges and Unis will all have websites and will publish prospectus. Take a look through them - some places offer courses which aren't widely available, and there are tons of courses out there. Think of where you want to stay - Uni near home or ship out? Science or Arts? Engineering? Medicince/Dentistry/Vetinary? Law? How vocational do you want the course to be - some colleges have really good links with business sector so you can get work experience, years out as industrial placements, part-time work, etc. Some courses will be purely academic. How about something like Environmental Science? According to Wiki "Employment of environmental scientists is expected to increase by 25 percent between 2006 and 2016, much faster than the average for all occupations." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Serious note now. If you can, get a degree - any degree, it matters not. Mrs Lefty works for a Blue Chip UK PLC and wouldn't stand a chance of getting her job now, because she's not a graduate. HR depts love scripting job spec's which say "Graduate level only". I've met several numpties, all with degrees, that her firm has employed and honestly, I wouldn't let them supervise making toast. Depends on what you want to do Lefty.. In my game (IT Networking & Security) a degree dosen't give you anything over someone without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Why don't you become a Pole they seem to be able to walk into just about any job now a days! Lost out on another job today SS or........... just pretend to be Polish (perfect the accent) and get any job....as they are often well educated and hardworking..http://jobs.trovit.co.uk/jobs/polish-london Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I look for someone with a brain, not someone with a memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I look for someone with a brain, not someone with a memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 The happiest bloke that I have ever met was a 29 year old Austrian called Tomas. He had a first class degree in economics, but had sacked working in the city. When I last saw him he was spending the winter months as a Skiing instructor and during the summer months he was a PGA golf instructor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 FM, Forget all these deadbeat ideas that you have been bombarded with. Take a leaf out of myself and NTTF's book and marry a woman who earns enough for the both of you. You then get to spend your days doing what you like. Well almost all of them. TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 The happiest bloke that I have ever met was a 29 year old Austrian called Tomas. He had a first class degree in economics, but had sacked working in the city. When I last saw him he was spending the winter months as a Skiing instructor and during the summer months he was a PGA golf instructor. one of these "good at everything" ******** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I'd say go to Uni if you've got the brains to do it. If you don't you'll probably regret it for the rest of your life (like me) I couldn't be ***** with school and quit after my O levels, should have done A levels then Uni. I've hated working ever since, tried a few different things, but was a travel agent for most of the time. **** money, **** job, but at least I saw the world a few times over. Started my own business, rather unsuccessfully, hate it I wanted to do Marine Biology, but without Uni - no chance. A friend of mine also fancied Marine Biology and he went to Uni and now he lives in Australia studying Great White Sharks and coral reefs and getting paid for it :oops: Envious? Me? - perish the thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Ferret Master , You will have to make the choice between working in something you think you would enjoy and be happy with a low wage or get a high payed job and have the money to relax in the countryside. But beware if you work in the countryside ( as i do ) time off to shoot is limited and anyway if you have had to get up every morning at the crack of dawn freeze ur butt off all day in the cold and wet the thought of spending a stormy day in a pigeon hide loses some of its apeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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