mr_colt Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Anti's within Shrewsbury and Atcham Borough Council have rubber-stamped this into bylaw without the first incling of how a hunt operates: The level of control the huntsman has on the hounds must be beyond their comprehension Can you imagine how many walkers with leads it would take to "escort" the hounds through public places? Amongst mounted riders it would clearly be chaos. http://www.shropshirestar.com/2008/02/hunt...ust-have-leads/ Of course the usual anti's (many from out of county) have been quick to cheer the order; calling all the usual insults on the hunt. It also suprises me how anti-horse and rider some of these people are. Some called to force the hunt to clean up any horse dung dropped on the public road!?? ...Sorry; isn't that what we pay council tax into the highways budget for? If I remember correctly the council is still obliged to clean up the highway; with riders having as much right to use if not priority with regards to public roads? Clearly not in council-wonderland it seems. mr_colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerico Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Some called to force the hunt to clean up any horse dung dropped on the public road!?? ...Sorry; isn't that what we pay council tax into the highways budget for? If I remember correctly the council is still obliged to clean up the highway; with riders having as much right to use if not priority with regards to public roads? I was with you untill that point............ Would it be ok if I let my dog drop his guts outside your house and left it there? Are you going to pay for the funeral and support the family of the person whom hit your horse **** at 60mph while riding his motorcycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Whilst I am with you for the vast majority of this arguement Colt, I'm with Jerico on the horse **** issue. Same way as the construction industry, and now farmers, are being told to clean the road after they have made it muddy, horse riders should do the same...it's not what we pay our council tax for And THAT is the reason why the military horses (and some police) generally have **** catchers. Read MCN and read about how many bikers are suing farmers and riders alike for making a mess of the road! However, if the road is properly managed (banksmen either end) then hounds should be acceptable off the lead. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart92 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 but the hunts are on private land arnt they so u basical could have them off leads or get them really long ones it would **** off the antis problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 theres plenty of **** already on the road a bit more wont hurt. and why would anyone be travelling at 60mph down country lanes anyway ? born to hunt and carry out country pursuits, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbum71 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) If a road is designated as national speed limit, it means that you can travel at 60mph on it. Horse sh#t on a corner is no joke at even 20mph! It's time rules were made to make riders clear up after themselves or get off the roads. And don't start on about the horse being here before the car/motorbike, so was Scurvy and Smallpox, but no-one wants them back! I'm all for anyone doing whatever they want for fun, but like everyone else it's time horseriders took responsibilty for their hobby. Edited February 24, 2008 by tinbum71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 If a road is designated as national speed limit, it means that you can travel at 60mph on it. Horse sh#t on a corner is no joke at even 20mph! It's time rules were made to make riders clear up after themselves or get off the roads. And don't start on about the horse being here before the car/motorbike, so was Scurvy and Smallpox, but no-one wants them back! I'm all for anyone doing whatever they want for fun, but like everyone else it's time horseriders took responsibilty for their hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful badger Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 same here,. horse **** is as bad as diesel spills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Great! They ask for your input then don't list it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 you mean the country lanes where hounds and horses use only as access now have a national speed limit of 60 mph on them now . i never have skidded on horse s--t in the country lanes where i live,, when hounds are being walked out when young they are coupled together as to get road wise coupled that is collars each and joined together in pairs. if you find you are skidding on horse s--t please check your tyres you may well find you are the one breaking the law ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) If a road is designated as national speed limit, it means that you can travel at 60mph on it. Horse sh#t on a corner is no joke at even 20mph! It's time rules were made to make riders clear up after themselves or get off the roads. And don't start on about the horse being here before the car/motorbike, so was Scurvy and Smallpox, but no-one wants them back! I'm all for anyone doing whatever they want for fun, but like everyone else it's time horseriders took responsibilty for their hobby. There are already rules on horses (and everyone else who uses the road) to clean up whatever they leave behind...unfortunately they're not enforced! Whilst I know where your coming from re national speed limits, on B and C roads I go up to ~45mph anyway, as you need to remember these are small roads used by locals & livestock and the national speed limit means that you can go UP TO 60mph IF it's safe to do so. you mean the country lanes where hounds and horses use only as access now have a national speed limit of 60 mph on them now . i never have skidded on horse s--t in the country lanes where i live,, when hounds are being walked out when young they are coupled together as to get road wise coupled that is collars each and joined together in pairs.if you find you are skidding on horse s--t please check your tyres you may well find you are the one breaking the law ? Noel, so you have never skidded on horse ****, so what bike do you/did you have when riding over it last? Whilst it makes very little difference when in/on three and four wheels, but it makes a MASSIVE difference when on two!! Edited February 25, 2008 by Oly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Though I have no interest in hunting with hounds, I would always support it against the anti loonies, because I regard any victory against field sports as the start of something else (it would be fishing, shooting etc next). However, I do despair when I come across this **** you, you can clean up after me, **** you, I can ride roughshod over your land, **** you, I've got cash mentality. It just gives the antis all the ammo they need to continue their campaign. You can't compare mounds of **** on the road with what cars leave behind . We might all have a right to use the roads, but we should all leave them clean behind us. Edited February 25, 2008 by Chard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I will support call for riders to collect their ****, just as soon as the Law insists that I, (and everyone alse) have to suck up exhaust gases into a balloon and take them home, too. If your worried about being unable to control your bike on corners, try slowing the **** down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Chard - I think you've hit the nail on the head - spot on If your worried about being unable to control your bike on corners, try slowing the **** down! Lefty, a neighbour of mine hasn't been able to raise his left hand above his head due to an accident on a **** covered surface after he came off doing less than 10mph! Speed isn't the issue Like Chard says - everyone should leave the public areas as they find them - **** free! Edited February 25, 2008 by Oly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful badger Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) what a ****ty attitude you have lefty , exhaust gas doesnt cause people to crash and die, if it did my two strokes would be guilty of many many deaths. not all bikers are looneys in the same way that not all guns are toffs. Edited February 25, 2008 by artful badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 time to call a end to this lunatic's screaming round the countryside skidding on horse s--t at 60 mph .and no i have never skidded on horse s--t or do i know of anyone who has are you sure you lot are country folk and not townies who wanna be country boys i have never heard of so much **** in my life .when all you got in life is to moan about sh-t . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I totally agree Noel, nothing worse than bikes screaming round the roads (sorry Art Badger but I really can't stand the sound two-stroke bikes either - no matter what speed!) endangering others as well as themselves. BUT have you actually READ the posts above...we are NOT talking about speed! And besides...you still havent answered my question - so what motorbike do you/did you have when riding over ****! And as for asking if we're countryfolk...I've been to Guildford, Surrey (and the surrounding area)...you may as well be part of London!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbum71 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 time to call a end to this lunatic's screaming round the countryside skidding on horse s--t at 60 mph .and no i have never skidded on horse s--t or do i know of anyone who has are you sure you lot are country folk and not townies who wanna be country boys i have never heard of so much **** in my life .when all you got in life is to moan about sh-t . Bloody townies pretending to be interested in the country! I live 12 miles from Truro, the only "city" in Cornwall, population 19k!!! I live so far out in the country we comment on 3 cars passing in the same day. I ride a Harley and don't "scream" around the countryside. As mentioned by several posts, hitting a slippery unstable object on 2 wheels is no joke at any speed, even in a straight line. I doubt if you've ever left the town, let alone ridden country lanes on a bike. Stick to subjects you know about. How is the stock market these days?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I doubt if you've ever left the town, let alone ridden country lanes on a bike. ... How is the stock market these days?! Stick to subjects you know about. Well said that man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 hells angels from hell. guildford in surrey doe's not evolve around the little town. if you read posts early it was stated the national speed limit stands in the country side lanes ? and i said you skidd on sh-t at that speed on two wheels .BUT I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE HAVEIN A CRASH CAUSED BY SH-T only those that talk it and this site seems to be full of them. stock market is that where you sell your cows you weyward lads . if you payed attention to posts you will have read i was a hunt terrierman for many years and i am sorry but i dont recall a pack being based in guildford town centre. der num nuts i thought my battles for keeping hunting alive and country pursuits and not for argueing over sh-t i could pm you my name you could read plenty on me throu our oppersition the animal rights groups HSA all you would have to is type my name in any search engine tell me yours lets see what yee have done for our sport .i should imagine your claim to fame would be [ TALKING **** ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie 1 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I think that having the hounds on leads is rediculas. i can't belive anyone even agreed to that. and the issues about horse **** on the road is just as daft. i disagree with having to pick up the horse cr** after a ride. i understand that people want the roads clean but IMO if you are going a sensible speed then you will be able to spot **** on the road and go round it. the people that skid on it will be those who arn't going a slow enough for the road. lets face it the road is big enough so go round it and if you are driving sensibly you would notice it and be able to go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 i understand that people want the roads clean but IMO if you are going a sensible speed then you will be able to spot **** on the road and go round it. the people that skid on it will be those who arn't going a slow enough for the road. lets face it the road is big enough so go round it and if you are driving sensibly you would notice it and be able to go round. Not true, try spotting horse (or cow) s--t once it's been flattened into the road but is still nice and greasy under the crusty skin. Now try it going at a perfectly sensible speed round a tight bend on a narrow road whilst being aware enough of your surroundings to consider whether the tractor coming out of the field on your left has seen you and can stop within the muddy field he is exiting and whether the car driver coming the opposite direction has time to get back onto his own side of the road having overtaken a cyclist on his approach to the aforementioned blind bend. Now try it on a motorcycle where your connection with the road surface is limited to two credit card size contact patches. Go "round it" - I don't think so. The roads should be left clean for safety sake, it's lives we're talking about here, not petty arguments. Is hitting horse **** on a motorcycle potentially life threatening? Yes. Is it therefore reasonable to expect other road users engaging in a hobby where they leave the road in a potentially life threatening condition to clean up behind themselves? IMO Yes, they should. Would it really be that difficult for somebody to walk along the road after the hunt has passed and throw the sh-t to one side? I don't know, there's not much hunting in my part of the country, no doubt somebody will correct me if this is not a practical answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) WGD, nicely put, some good arguments in there too BigNeol - to be honest I wouldn't care if you were John Peel, we all have the right to express our opinions, regardless of what we have to say and regardless of what we have, or have not done before ...so put your Richard away as this isn't a 7 year olds p!ssing contest! Besides, if you have ever written anything in support of our sport I pity the poor sod who has to try to read your spelling and grammar! I was considering going through it and editing it for you to learn, but somehow I don't think it'll do much good! And if you consider Guildford, Surrey to be a "little town" I think you need to spend more time in the real countryside...Guildford is bigger than my nearest city some 35 miles away!!! To be honest, I've said my piece now and the same arguements seem to be going around, so I'm off this one...time for a cool one :blink: Edited February 26, 2008 by Oly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 oily maybe i never got the education you got you up start lol lol i never said i lived in guildford town you clown i said do you know of a pack sited there fool ,you state you live 35 mile from any town shame its not 135 miles off shore.you seem to have a good education for a wurzel boyo. and jhon peel is sir to you. best you leave the feild while you can shame on you **** ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) I live in a quiet village, horses cr@pping right outside our lil cottage, kids playing around the green. And then, usually weekends, you have these t0ssers from the towns coming out of their cities on their whining japanese sewing machines trying to get every mph out of their pathetically over powered screamers. All I will say, if any of these idiots causes an accident (and we will have one soon) I will personally walk over to the rider (already licking his wounds on the deck and personally kick the **** out of him !!! THerfore: put MORE horse and dog cr*p onto the road (country lane) outside my house ! We can't bring dead kids back, so, if horse **** slows them down out here in the country,lets spray the roads with it ! Edited February 28, 2008 by Cranfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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