markbivvy Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/editors-c...78057-20329655/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I dont know the full story, but seems insane, just another installment of the weak government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbum71 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 A total no brainer! It's time that Joe Public stood up to defend himself. Sign the petition now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Agreed and signed LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman2 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Our country is down the pan, why should decent people put up with this rubbish. Petition signed and passed on to as many people as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 signed seald and deliverd,its a poor do when the innocent people suffer for the sake of others,this country is on its **** and no one dare say owt for fear of reprisels,fredom of speech i think not you try it.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 signed, The judge wants to do time in my oppinion, This country is a laughing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 other than the immigration problem, which will never be sorted now, that pretty much sums up everything that is wrong with this pathetic excuse for a country. SIGNED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 That stinks. Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Unbelievable..... Signed, hope he gets out very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billett Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Signed, but looking into it further, he actually drove over the thug, wish I had the chance to run one over lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Bob Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Agreed and signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Shocking story and seems to be becoming so common now that decent people standing up for themselves come away as the guilty one! I woulkd have driven over him as well to defend myself and family if it came to it. Sad thing is if he had been knifed to death in front of his family the offender would have probably got a smaller sentence due to the fact he was on drugs at the time and needs rehab and wasnt awre of his actions bla bla bla.. Country is a joke now. The justice system is ****! Prisons are full so smaller sentences and suspended sentences are being handed down to criminals leaving them free to roam the streets! We need to build more prisons not speed traps and speed bumps. Rant over.. Tris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I saw this on another forum and wondered how long it would take to appear and if anyone was going to post it couldn't have been a better person I'm not signing it for a few reasons, look past the petition to what actually happened the guy had been terrorised and threatened but that threat was gone when he chased him in his van and proceeded to run him over while the guy was hiding in a bush away from him. Judges rarely lock someone up under those circumstances unless its pre-meditated and acting for revenge rather than out of self defence. Had it been self defence he would have been fine. There are lots of buts with this one the guy was a scrote and did deserve it but the way he got it wasn't legal hence the jail term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I saw this on another forum and wondered how long it would take to appear and if anyone was going to post it couldn't have been a better person meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 meaning someone who likes a good hard luck story where the establishment has treated someone unjustly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 the establishment has treated someone unjustly sign of getting old, and seeing far to much of it of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 not in this case, had it been self defence he would have been fine as it was he chose to drive after the guy and use his van as an offensive weapon. You just can't do it but it doesn't sound so good written in the papers that way. As ever what bugs me is only hearing one side of the story but thats what the internet and media seem to excell at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) not in this case, had it been self defence he would have been fine as it was he chose to drive after the guy and use his van as an offensive weapon. You just can't do it but it doesn't sound so good written in the papers that way. As ever what bugs me is only hearing one side of the story but thats what the internet and media seem to excell at so much much **** have folk to take of the scum that are walking the streets. electronically tagged yob who had threatened him with a knife and had tried to smash his windscreen. he should have walked.in my opinion. while leaving his home to go shopping, Stephen, with his children present was confronted by a man clearly under the influence of drugs and alchohol who threatened to stab him in full view of his children some of whom are not yet of school age, unless he agreed to fight. Edited February 26, 2008 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 had he done him there and then then fine but he didn't. Its the whole self defence argument the same reason Tony Martin went down in this country we can't take vigilante action and go after anyone and kill / injure them after the event. To me this is the right way as you have the right to defend yourself you just don't have the right to take the law into your own hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpitup Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 he did have his kids with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 depends which story you read, he was in a van so three seats max and chased the guy down the road and ran him over in bushes, Now to me if he had a child or two with him what was he doing chasing someone and crashing his van into him putting his kids at risk. This story says a bit more http://www.stv.tv/content/news/headlines/d..._shoul_20080212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 The Brief that convinced him to plead guilty, did him no favour. I'd be surprised if a jury would have convicted him. I know I wouldn't have - even if he'd reversed over him, twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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