DramaQueen Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Can anyone advise the best place to store the spare keys for our gun safes? We were looking at getting a small safe but for the type we can afford they dont seem man enough for the job. I currently leave them with our local RFD on the advise of or FLO. This isnt realistic though if we need them out of normal business hours. If we left them with another SGC holder in the area, is it prudent to tell the FLO? Your advise would be appreciated Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Whoever has access to your safe keys must be both licensed and have the guns declared on their license. what's wrong with keeping the spare keys with the other key? Lose one and you will have to change the safe locks anyway. Keep them all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaQueen Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks for that Sam. Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 leave them somewhere safe in the house. There is no obligation to keep them locked away just that no one should know where they are. I keep a set on my car keys that are always with me and another set underneath a chest of draws. No one should know where they are whether they hold a licence or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Indeed so why did you just tell us where they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 you don't know where I live, I've about 8 sets of draws and a couple of Jack Russels with my house you'd be very lucky to find them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 what's wrong with keeping the spare keys with the other key? Lose one and you will have to change the safe locks anyway. Keep them all together. Err becuase if you loose them all you can't get your guns out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 You don't own an angle grinder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 you really don't want to cut into a gunsafe with guns inside with an angle grinder you'll wreck them. As said there is a reason for keeping a spare set and you have to be sensible about their safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I keep my keys in a smaller electronic safe. Picked it up for around 50 Euro, handy for holding checkbooks passports etc,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Same as al4x......... in the house well hidden. I used to use a cup hook at the back of a kitchen unit but when I needed them I dislodged them and had to "fish" for them blind so to speak. I now have a short piece of string attached to the key ring and then onto the hook so if it falls it is easily retrieved. BTW - it isn`t in the same place anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 the other point worth mentioning is even the FEO shouldn't know where you keep them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 the other point worth mentioning is even the FEO shouldn't know where you keep them Technically nobody should know where your keys are - I have heard of an FLO turning up to inspect a safe with SGC holder not in attendance, asking wife of SGC holder for safe key which she duly passed over and hey presto, big problem - non licence holding wife has access to SGC holder's guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 on one inspection a friend of mine found his keys ok but there was a rifle missing and had to ask his wife if she knew where it was she replied yes its behind the hoover in the downstairs cupboard, luckily he said he had been out that morning and his wife must have moved it on his return and the officer still granted renewal. the same guy on one occasion was sat on the loo in the good old days of pistols playing with his .45 and let a round off which went thru two doors and landed in the bedroom wall.after about ten minutes with no response from his wife he asked if she heard the bang "yes" well i could have shot myself she replied impossible because as you've told me before you never play with loaded guns in the house!!! needless to say he never did after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I got a small key safe off ebay - steel, combination lock, about 4" by 3" in size, £20 and mounted in a hidden location in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 ........was sat on the loo in the good old days of pistols playing with his .45............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 ........was sat on the loo in the good old days of pistols playing with his .45............ I've played with a few things whilst sat on the loo but couldn't add a .45 pistol to my repetoire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 You don't own an angle grinder? i would rather open door with spare keys,and change the locks,rather than pay over 200 quid for a new safe cos i cut the bloody thing open with grinder??? just buy a cheap safe ,handy for ammo too and cash etc..should get one for 20-30 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I just let the wife look after the other set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 For small safes....... £14-99 £17-99 Just keys £19-97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I keep my keys in a smaller electronic safe. Picked it up for around 50 Euro, handy for holding checkbooks passports etc,.... Don't know if they still sell them at the same price but Screwfix were selling a small safe with keys for £14 I have one and there is quite a bit of room in it! Bolt it in a corner on BOTH walls and through the floor and it's damn near impossible to remove as it's so small! Great for anything from Spare keys to passports and house deeds etc! LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 So what do you do with the keys for the key safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) so where do you put the keys for your key safe, and then where do you put the spare keys to your key safe oops too slow Edited March 5, 2008 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 ha ha great minds al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 It's all to do with access. You can leave spare keys in your desk at work but probably no use if work is far away. Or you can leave spare keys with a mate who doesn't have access to your house. The problems arise when someone has access to your house *and* safe keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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