SirMorris Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Gents, ( & ladies if any!), I am looking to buy a semi auto since I have a limited budget for the sport and my intention is to use the gun for both clay and rough shooting. Now my concerns lie in the DTL practice: is a Semi auto accepted in a shooting squad? do some clubs prohibit their use for DTL? what is the "etiquette" for using a semi auto, i dont want to shower my neighbour with empty cartridges....... when do I reload yet showing that the gun is safe? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 You can shoot a Semi Auto at DTL or any of the other clay disiplines, To be honest a lot of the DTL guys dont like having them on their squad because, as you know , they throw the fired case off to the right, Having said that, there are more Semi Auto,s used in America trap disiplines than O/Unders. dont let me put you off, because I use an Auto for everything, mainly sporting, but also DTL, ABT, and Skeet.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big_Sam Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 In my opinion a semi auto is fine to use. Guns don't have to be expansive to be fun & do the job, none of my 3 cost more than £100 yet all do the job fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 In my opinion a semi auto is fine to use. Guns don't have to be expansive to be fun & do the job, none of my 3 cost more than £100 yet all do the job fine. Er, Big Sam Bud, what you are competing with in your avatar .....isnt a gun!!! Yep, sorry Bud its a table tennis bat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 A few of the more modern semi's eject downwards, the latest Beretta break barrel springs to mind, but I think that others also exist. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I would use a sporting OU if I were you, no-one will stop you from shooting a semi, but it will get backs up, if you feel you must use one then make sure it doesn't hit fellow competitors with ejected shells, and if it stands a chance of doing so then fit one of the shell catchers. You will also have to buy a semi that will cycle light loads reliably, as the last thing you want is a jam when shooting at clays, so you will be looking at the better quality semi's beretta, franchi, browning etc. I had a pump action for rough shooting and an OU for competition, works well as a pump can be had from £50 and is as good a rough gun as any semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 My wife uses a hatsan semi auto, cheap as chips weight and recoil perfect, up at bywell in northumberland against current title holders no complaints yet and they often mess about with it themselves THE HATSAN THAT IS NOT THE WIFE go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) A few of the more modern semi's eject downwards, the latest Beretta break barrel springs to mind, but I think that others also exist. webber remmington 105CTI ejects out the bottom just like a good ruby murry Edited April 2, 2008 by eagleye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 A few of the more modern semi's eject downwards, the latest Beretta break barrel springs to mind, but I think that others also exist. webber remmington 105CTI ejects out the bottom just like a good ruby murry :o :o Nothing like a good downwardly-ejecting ring burner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 If a semi is your choice, my advice would be to use what you want. The late and great Jim Stafford shot 200 straight at DTL in a Home International, with a Remington 1100. I had the privelege to shoot against Jim - at Sporting - and on rare occasions - beating him. If an auto was good enough for him, it is certainly good enough for lesser mortals. Shooters are becoming spoiled when they can object to someone using an auto - stuff them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 If a semi is your choice, my advice would be to use what you want. The late and great Jim Stafford shot 200 straight at DTL in a Home International, with a Remington 1100. I had the privelege to shoot against Jim - at Sporting - and on rare occasions - beating him. If an auto was good enough for him, it is certainly good enough for lesser mortals. Shooters are becoming spoiled when they can object to someone using an auto - stuff them. Yep your right there Bud, I was a friend of Jim, and like yourself have shot with him, and his Brother Ian, I still shoot with Ian now and then, Jim was a great bloke. God bless him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 In my opinion a semi auto is fine to use. Guns don't have to be expansive to be fun & do the job, none of my 3 cost more than £100 yet all do the job fine. Er, Big Sam Bud, what you are competing with in your avatar .....isnt a gun!!! Yep, sorry Bud its a table tennis bat!! Maybe he is getting more of those bullet-proof rooks with the bat than his gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squodged Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 A few of the more modern semi's eject downwards, the latest Beretta break barrel springs to mind, but I think that others also exist. webber remmington 105CTI ejects out the bottom just like a good ruby murry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) Gents, ( & ladies if any!),I am looking to buy a semi auto since I have a limited budget for the sport and my intention is to use the gun for both clay and rough shooting. Now my concerns lie in the DTL practice: is a Semi auto accepted in a shooting squad? do some clubs prohibit their use for DTL? what is the "etiquette" for using a semi auto, i dont want to shower my neighbour with empty cartridges....... when do I reload yet showing that the gun is safe? Thanks!!! dtl shooters moan about autos but then they would dtl is probably all they can hit i shoot all disciplins with a beretta semi if they dont like it tough. regards dtl shooters they seem to moan all the time, if you talk they moan you have an auto they moan, they will have us all wearing plus 4s next Edited April 3, 2008 by peter-peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMorris Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Within the limited budget allowed by the treasurer (AKA wife!) i cannot even consider any italian makes... so a S/H Remi, Baikal or Escort it is..i.e. side ejection. now my question is: you hit with your first shot, what to do with the second? keep it in the chamber: of course not; then what? cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 No problem at all, you just keep your auto pointing downrange, unless that was your last 5th target, if not wait untill the shooter on your right has fired then put in your second cartridge and await your next turn. you must however empty your gun if you are finishing stand 5! and are going back to stand one. as long as you keep your gun pointing down range, then most grounds dont mind you going from 1 to 5 with one up the chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) Safety First Don't change with one in the spout whether the ground "allows" it or not. Always unload any gun before walking - its just common sense, and good etiquette for which you will be respected. Safest procedure is to use a "latch back" bolt - Remi 1100s have em and others as well. The bolt latches back to show the empty chamber. Many newer actions drop the bolt on an empty chamber, but some have a toggle lever to hold it open if desired. If you can hold the action open, you can still have two in the mag on the stn, and when its your turn you drop the bolt, and cycle it once manually to load the first shell. That way you can be advance loaded ( as a break action man is), while not actually having one in the chamber until its your turn to shoot, and like the break action guys, its even safe to toe the muzzle if the gun is latched back. Usually accepted way to carry an auto between stns is muzzle vertical, bolt open ( or flagged). Clayman Edited April 3, 2008 by clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 well as far as using a semi auto there should be no problem, but saying that i wouldnt like to be getting hit by empty carts, and you can get a s/h o/u for the same money your thinking of spending on a semi auto, and in my opinion i find it easier carrying round a broken o/u or sxs than carrying round a semi auto when out rough shooting, but good luck whatever you decide, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucent Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 I say go for it, i have a couple of OU but tend shoot with the Beretta semi and have never had any complaints. It wouldn't bother me if a couple of empty carts land at my feet or hit me. Its not like they hurt or put you off if your not actually shooting. Some people are funny about them but as long as you are safe and unload between stands there should be little to worry about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMorris Posted April 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 just came back from the club.. wasnt my day! One big mouth was complaining I put him off because when it was MY turn to shoot,I was aligning my gun above the trap then down!! i wonder how he d feel when i show up with a semi!! I ll make sure i stand next to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Hmmmm doesn't ring true. Were you taking an inordinately long time between your turn and actually shooting or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMorris Posted April 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 not really, may be extra two seconds more than the rest! honest! i was pointing the gun upward and downward, that what got him! as per him: i need to point at the centre, call for the bird and bang! with minimal movement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I might be wrong but I believe in competitions in one or all of the trap disciplines there is 10 seconds allowed between it being your turn to shoot and having to shoot, going over incurs a penalty, however if your just practising while you should be trying to practise as you would shoot in comps some people do take it too seriously. However you don't need to point your gun up then down, just mount up, and I tend to aim at the bottom of the trap house in DTL that way I can just pull through the clay smoothly. Be careful of picking up strange habbits they can form and cause you problems later. I try to just shoot, with no strange routines etc. Don't need my head messing with any more than shooting does on it's own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Hello all . I shoot most disciplines and i have seen autos used at all of them. DTL can be very clicky, easy to **** people off in. I use a u/o in DTL and ABT but i have used my autos and got on well. Sporting and skeet i love my auto, you just cant beat it Just buy what you want and have fun, if people dont like it nevermind, becouse at some point you know they will get up your nose Remington 1100 Game Beretta 391 sporter 2 Sporting and skeet Miroku MK 38 sporter for every thing when i feel like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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