harpo_the_bad Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hello, My girlfriend sustained a whiplash injury over a year ago but it will not fully heal. Does anyone know if it would be safe for her to have a go with either of my shotguns? And would it be safer for her to use my O/U? As it is a much heavier gun than my auto? Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hello, My girlfriend sustained a whiplash injury over a year ago but it will not fully heal. Does anyone know if it would be safe for her to have a go with either of my shotguns? And would it be safer for her to use my O/U? As it is a much heavier gun than my auto? Thanks guys! You should be asking her Doctor this, not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpo_the_bad Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 You should be asking her Doctor this, not us. Have done. She (the doctor) doesn't seem to care... she just keeps saying that given enough time it will heal; but it doesn't and hasn't. What's more, she has no idea about guns. Does anyone have any experience with this? Or even any experience with letting a woman use a 12 gauge? Is the recoil too much? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 You should be asking her Doctor this, not us. Have done. She (the doctor) doesn't seem to care... she just keeps saying that given enough time it will heal; but it doesn't and hasn't. What's more, she has no idea about guns. Does anyone have any experience with this? Or even any experience with letting a woman use a 12 gauge? Is the recoil too much? Thanks Sounds as though you need a second opinion, (medical) you really do not want to compromise her health without professional medical advice. Many women use 12g, my other half included, but she does not have whiplash injuries. I have tongue-lash injuries from her, but you/she need medical advice on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpo_the_bad Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Sounds as though you need a second opinion, (medical) you really do not want to compromise her health without professional medical advice. Many women use 12g, my other half included, but she does not have whiplash injuries. I have tongue-lash injuries from her, but you/she need medical advice on this. I suppose so... although it's hard enough to find someone that speaks English at our practice let alone someone who is willing to help. Add to those odds a doctor who knows anything at all about guns and I'm starting to think the odds of winning the lotto this week are pretty good! Still, doesn't hurt to try. Just hope we don't get an anti! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart92 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 try a .410 then work your way up like .410 20 12 doc stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Harpo , Are you sure you live in norfolk ? Carnt find a doctor who speaks english ? . Any how i have had a bad neck injury for the past 20 years and is at times its very painful and debilitating . Ihave managed to carry on using my over and under guns and have managed to go through the pain barrier and carry on shooting . About a year ago the pain became to much and the recoil was more than i could bear so i had to concider giving up shooting . Any how i borrowed a berretta auto and found that the recoil was far less than an over and under . I then bought my self a urika sporting model with the recoil reduction system in the stock . What a difference , the gun is as recoiless as a gun could be and i can shoot it all day long with no ill effect . Hope this helps , Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 try a .410 then work your way up like .410 20 12 doc stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I'd get a second, third, fourth etc opinion before I'd let her near a shotgun. It may be worth your while contacting the BASC or other shooting organisation to see if they know of doctors who would be in the know about such matters. It's never, ever, worth risking someones health for shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpo_the_bad Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Harpo , Are you sure you live in norfolk ? Carnt find a doctor who speaks english ? . Any how i have had a bad neck injury for the past 20 years and is at times its very painful and debilitating . Ihave managed to carry on using my over and under guns and have managed to go through the pain barrier and carry on shooting . About a year ago the pain became to much and the recoil was more than i could bear so i had to concider giving up shooting . Any how i borrowed a berretta auto and found that the recoil was far less than an over and under . I then bought my self a urika sporting model with the recoil reduction system in the stock . What a difference , the gun is as recoiless as a gun could be and i can shoot it all day long with no ill effect . Hope this helps , Harnser . Hello Hanser, yes definitely Norfolk... last time I checked anyway. Our local surgery is mainly staffed by Indians, Poles and Germans. There is one English doctor but he's next to useless as well - he's actually caused me a fair few problems. From what I hear other people saying about the NHS, if your experience is any different then I'd hazard a guess that you're going private or you're one of the lucky few! I'd just like to point out that I'm NOT racist... I usually ask to see the German as a matter of fact... but it's not so great when a language barrier is added to the already difficult task of diagnosis! But I digress! I've heard about recoil reduction systems. Alas, my auto is more of a workhorse and doesn't have the fancy features that your thoroughbred does! My auto kicks harder than my O/U. Maybe if she gets in to shooting then we could invest some money in to something like you have. Thank you for the suggestion! I'd get a second, third, fourth etc opinion before I'd let her near a shotgun. It may be worth your while contacting the BASC or other shooting organisation to see if they know of doctors who would be in the know about such matters. It's never, ever, worth risking someones health for shooting. We certainly will do that. I don't expect that any doctor will 'put his neck on the line' (no pun intended) by saying yes, but we will see! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I doubt a GP can really tell you what you need to know. You/she really needs specialist medical knowledge. Having said that .... I have an injury where the specialist said all was well with no ill effect but still if I put force on the joint in one particular direction I get severe pain and numbness further down the limb. So .... you take all the advice and then make up your own mind. Since you said she has whiplash presumably someone went up her rear .... so possibly the accident is their fault? is this not a claim in which specialist medical care/report will be given? cheers Malk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpo_the_bad Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I doubt a GP can really tell you what you need to know. You/she really needs specialist medical knowledge. Having said that .... I have an injury where the specialist said all was well with no ill effect but still if I put force on the joint in one particular direction I get severe pain and numbness further down the limb. So .... you take all the advice and then make up your own mind. Since you said she has whiplash presumably someone went up her rear .... so possibly the accident is their fault? is this not a claim in which specialist medical care/report will be given? cheers Malk Thanks for your input Malk, Yes, a car did hit her from behind. A driver pulled out in front of my girlfriend in a residential zone forcing her to either hit the other driver or slam her breaks on... my girlfriend did the right thing and stopped safely and in time... but as no good deed ever goes unpunished, the driver behind wasn't paying attention and ploughed straight in to the back of our stationery car. I'm sure that we could have claimed/sued and got a specialist to see to it, but my future mother-in-law (as I was at work and my girlfriend was in no fit state) called the insurance company and snatched their hand off for a paltry offer of £300. End of. Because she agreed that the matter was settled, we now have no case against anyone. Don't you just love mothers in law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 You could speak to the best specialists in the country and even if they did know anything about the physics of shooting you would get contradicting opinions. Consultants seem to take pride in their differences. If she is in pain at the time then do not aggravate it with what is a good old smack in the shoulder. If she feels ok why not try to simulate it with the heel of your hand?If ok after a few of those then why not borrow someones 20g to test her out ? good luck. Regards, Dr Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I know this might sound silly but my son walked into A@E After he had been seeing his doctor for a neck sprain for a month and could hardly move on a morning due to pain in his neck and shoulder,seems when they xrayed it he had suffered a broken collar bone which hadnt knitted properly,A@E just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearandnoidea Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hush power cartridges really reduce the recoil, I was expecting there to be less but it was incredible how little there was in comparison. They are a lot slower though so you need massive amounts of lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hush power cartridges really reduce the recoil, I was expecting there to be less but it was incredible how little there was in comparison. They are a lot slower though so you need massive amounts of lead. And with a Hushpower gun you can virtually shoot single handed there is so little recoil.I use the 12g alot. Strangely dont notice the lead thing and they do kill very dead. Takes a while to get used to the guns tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Perhaps not a medical answer but two suggestions for some good info .. - the owner/founder/ inventor of the Isis Recoil system did so after injuries stopped his shooting so he could shoot again. Both are in the Essex area. may be worth a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I suffered whiplash last september and had to refrain from shooting for around 3 months as it was too painful, after physio and exercises I could carry on but I stuck to using the SA for a bit now I can shoot as normal with no ill effects although using RC50s is still a bit painful ,my doctor said as whiplash is mainly muscular strain I would be able to shoot but just take it easy. So give it a go and see if she feels any discomfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 The recoil on the semi will be less than that of the O/U because the gun uses the recoil to chamber the next round! The semi would be a safer bet if she were to fire one of the two! Although I dont really endorse it. Seems a bit stupid imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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