decroyffe Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 My BASC Insurance renewal has just come around, at the rate of £68 for the year. This is way to much, and i've decided i'm no longer going to pay for there fancy dinners, flash cars and private armourys, stocked with rare and fancy weapons of all sorts. I need cover asap for the following. shotgun and full bore rifles to use on private land, clay, rough and driven days. any advice please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Easy one NGO- cheapest and the best Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decroyffe Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Easy one NGO- cheapest and the best Jonno Had a look there jonno, wasn't sure if you needed to be a keeper tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 NATIONAL GAMEKEEPERS ORGANISATION 3O QUID 10 MILLION COVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Easy one NGO- cheapest and the best :blink: Jonno Had a look there jonno, wasn't sure if you needed to be a keeper tho? You can just join as a supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decroyffe Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Easy one NGO- cheapest and the best :blink: Jonno Had a look there jonno, wasn't sure if you needed to be a keeper tho? You can just join as a supporter. Thats enough for me. Wasn't sure a surporter would get the cover but now i'm happy i'll give them a call, regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkfooty Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 My BASC Insurance renewal has just come around, at the rate of £68 for the year. This is way to much, and i've decided i'm no longer going to pay for there fancy dinners, flash cars and private armourys, stocked with rare and fancy weapons of all sorts. Here we go again. Decroyffe my friend, your BASC insurance renewal is not £68. About £10 of that is for the insurance and the rest is for the whole raft of exceptionally valuable services that BASC provides for its members. If it were not for BASC (and WAGBI before it) believe me that ordinary guys like you and me would have nowhere to shoot, nothing to shoot at and nothing to shoot with. Only the toffs and their ilk would be able to shoot in Britain. In my opinion, no-one in the UK today deserves to carry a gun unless he also carries a BASC membership card. Your second sentence is laughable ****eballs. For three years I went down every month to BASC HQ to attend Council meetings, travelling a round trip of 600 miles, and I never got anything more than a few sandwiches and an apple for lunch. The staff who get cars get practical pick-up trucks, not flash cars, to use transporting stuff around the country during the 60-hour weeks they typically work. And the BASC armoury consists only of historic pieces that have been gifted by members - not a penny of members' cash has been spent on them. So please do us a favour and get a grip of reality. Eric Begbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 BASC website states £62, which from memory is about £5 up on when I renewed last year. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 go for NGO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Eric, I think your insinuation that anyone carrying a GCT, NGO, NOBS or CA membership card (in place of the mighty BASC card) does not deserve to carry a gun is foolish, arrogant and narrow-minded. Why denigrate these organisations? I am a long-standing member of the BASC, but one who has never had to call on the BASC's legal or insurance services. I don't have complex issues regarding permissions, FAC applications or variations, or a murky criminal past. I'd much prefer to get a reduced subscription and opt out of receiving the parlous, quarterly BASC magazine. Maybe if the BASC offered various levels of membership and showed a little more humilty, there might not be so many defections to the seemingly inferior country sports bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decroyffe Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) My BASC Insurance renewal has just come around, at the rate of £68 for the year. This is way to much, and i've decided i'm no longer going to pay for there fancy dinners, flash cars and private armourys, stocked with rare and fancy weapons of all sorts. Here we go again. Decroyffe my friend, your BASC insurance renewal is not £68. About £10 of that is for the insurance and the rest is for the whole raft of exceptionally valuable services that BASC provides for its members. If it were not for BASC (and WAGBI before it) believe me that ordinary guys like you and me would have nowhere to shoot, nothing to shoot at and nothing to shoot with. Only the toffs and their ilk would be able to shoot in Britain. In my opinion, no-one in the UK today deserves to carry a gun unless he also carries a BASC membership card. Your second sentence is laughable ****eballs. For three years I went down every month to BASC HQ to attend Council meetings, travelling a round trip of 600 miles, and I never got anything more than a few sandwiches and an apple for lunch. The staff who get cars get practical pick-up trucks, not flash cars, to use transporting stuff around the country during the 60-hour weeks they typically work. And the BASC armoury consists only of historic pieces that have been gifted by members - not a penny of members' cash has been spent on them. So please do us a favour and get a grip of reality. Eric Begbie What a load of ****, i want insurance and nothing more. who are you to tell me, and everyone else they dont deserve to carry a gun unless we pay idiots like you to come out with comments like that. If you want, and dont mind paying for everything thats isn't nessery, fill your boots. i want to pay for insurance and nothing more. BASC do nothing other than send a **** magazine so many time a year, and the only phone call i made for advice, turned out to be unlawful from a so called expert in his field. If BASC offered a no frills insurance option there wouldn't be a problem. Instead the opted to rip off it's customers. Also if you havn't noticed pickup truck are expensive to buy, run, tax and maintain, again very unnessery at the customers cost Edited July 6, 2008 by decroyffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) I totally agree, Decroyffe.This argument is raging on the BBS too. Edited July 6, 2008 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290237 lot of good views on the bbs, post 15 is a good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decroyffe Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290237 lot of good views on the bbs, post 15 is a good read. A good read Mark and some very good points. Intresting to read about other peoples experances, and help thery've received from BASC. Still, i'm not sure they can justify the cost of membership when all i require is insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290237lot of good views on the bbs, post 15 is a good read. A good read Mark and some very good points. Intresting to read about other peoples experances, and help thery've received from BASC. Still, i'm not sure they can justify the cost of membership when all i require is insurance sacs K, give em a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 basc are always too quick to jump in and take the glory for things and i know for a fact that they wont help you out unless its a dead cert that they are going to get something back from it. Well they were very helpful to me on at least 2 occasions and I am extremely grateful to them. And they were going to get nothing back from it. They knew their stuff, had good contacts and got a few issues sorted for me - nothing being too much trouble. I consequently think they are well worth it - when the chips are down - I'm not sure who else I could rely on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 i dont carry any insurance..... i am thinking of investing in some and i believe people like me will go for the cheapest available so thats what my decision will be based on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi guys, Yep this one comes up pretty often and as things get tighter economy wise it is not surprising that people quite rightly question what they are paying. As I have said before, BASC is not for everyone, and there are other organisations out there offering different packages at different prices. I think that in the past I have been over aggressive defending the BASC membership package and have questioned other organisations- as mentioned on this thread this has been seen as criticising others. It is not my intention to knock others, there is no point. BASC offers its membership package for £62, I think you get quite a lot for your £62 not least of all the political and media lobbying that goes on- and the experts at the end of a phone when you need them. But if BASC is not for you then join one of the others, there are plenty to choose from. My heart agrees with Pinkfooty when he says no one should go shooting without a BASC membership card, but my head says this will never be the case, but I would go so far as no one should go shooting unless they are a member of a shooting organisation! Tin hat on waiting for the flack! D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi guys, Yep this one comes up pretty often and as things get tighter economy wise it is not surprising that people quite rightly question what they are paying. As I have said before, BASC is not for everyone, and there are other organisations out there offering different packages at different prices. I think that in the past I have been over aggressive defending the BASC membership package and have questioned other organisations- as mentioned on this thread this has been seen as criticising others. It is not my intention to knock others, there is no point. BASC offers its membership package for £62, I think you get quite a lot for your £62 not least of all the political and media lobbying that goes on- and the experts at the end of a phone when you need them. But if BASC is not for you then join one of the others, there are plenty to choose from. My heart agrees with Pinkfooty when he says no one should go shooting without a BASC membership card, but my head says this will never be the case, but I would go so far as no one should go shooting unless they are a member of a shooting organisation! Tin hat on waiting for the flack! D I would go as far as to say that shooting without insurance is akin to driving a car without insurance, you may well be the safest gun, but an accident need not be your fault. And like car insurance, it's a waste of money; Untill you have that accident! Annual membership of BASC is not really a lot compared to the price of cartridges, etc., a round of 100 clays at an open shoot can be £40, plus £15 cartridges, plus fuel there and back, there's your membership money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 i was with ca but now i am back with basc but there is nothing rong with the ca and i might be back there next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Id go as far as to say that, insurance for shooting must be made compulsory, a bit like having car insurance. Although i dont have insurance just yet, it will not be BASC i insure with as, the main point of arguement is cost.... I was insurance for 12 months and thats it, not ***** with magazines or anything daft associated with it, all i want is insurance like car insurance, i dont get magazines with that, and i dont want them, they fall into the same catagory as junk mail and promptly get filed under B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Id go as far as to say that, insurance for shooting must be made compulsory, a bit like having car insurance. Although i dont have insurance just yet, it will not be BASC i insure with as, the main point of arguement is cost.... So you think insurance should be compulsory but you don't have it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Id go as far as to say that, insurance for shooting must be made compulsory, a bit like having car insurance. Although i dont have insurance just yet, it will not be BASC i insure with as, the main point of arguement is cost.... I was insurance for 12 months and thats it, not ***** with magazines or anything daft associated with it, all i want is insurance like car insurance, i dont get magazines with that, and i dont want them, they fall into the same catagory as junk mail and promptly get filed under B. You would like to see shooting insurance made compulsory, yet you regularly go shooting without any? If you feel so strongly about having insurance shouldn't you have purchased some before taking your gun out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Id go as far as to say that, insurance for shooting must be made compulsory, a bit like having car insurance. Although i dont have insurance just yet, it will not be BASC i insure with as, the main point of arguement is cost.... I was insurance for 12 months and thats it, not ***** with magazines or anything daft associated with it, all i want is insurance like car insurance, i dont get magazines with that, and i dont want them, they fall into the same catagory as junk mail and promptly get filed under B. You would like to see shooting insurance made compulsory, yet you regularly go shooting without any? If you feel so strongly about having insurance shouldn't you have purchased some before taking your gun out? :blink: Beyond belief innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Oh Oh here we go (yet) again...I have my own issues with BASC but still support them wholeheartedly. Like Pinkfooty aka Eric B says without them I doubt that any of us would have much shooting to do. I’d also say this...membership of any of the field sports organisations should not just be about insurance (although if you shoot without don’t come near me) but about supporting the sport we all love. In todays PC world it’s only the BIG BOYS who can hack it, those who have the voice to be heard and if that means offices, people, comms equipment cars etc then so be it. I’m also willing to bet that most (if not all) of the people employed by BASC don’t do it for the money (which from the little I know isn’t far off subsistence level) but for the love of the life. Without BASC our sport would be a lot, lot poorer. Yes you can get cheaper insurance but you're also NOT getting much more and if you can't support the sport you enjoy then why bother> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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