Do you have any weapons

[Harnser]

A couple of days ago i was unloading my car in front of my garage after a days pigeon shooting . My neighbour came by and stopped for a chat . He saw the pigeons in the back of the car and said ,it looks like you have had a good day . I had shot 47 birds and was about to put them into the freezer .I asked him if he would like some and he said yes please ,i have given him fresh shot game in the past and he and his family like pigeons and i duly gave him a dozen pigeons . Whilst we were talking he asked me how many weapons did i have . I said to him do you mean how many guns do i have as i dont have any weapons . He said yes isnt it the same ,guns,weapons . I said to him as far as i am concerned my guns ,although used for killing game cannot be classed as weapons as they are not used in a defensive or offensive manner . He was quite happy with my discription of my guns as guns rather than weapons .

Was i being a bit touchy or do you agee . What do you have guns or weapons . Harnser .

[njc110381]

I know what you mean. Hearing of guns being called weapons makes me a little unsetled. We are sport shooters not soldiers. I think the word weapon suggests they can be used in a violent manner, which as legitimate gun owners we obviously avoid at all cost.

[Markio]

I guess the term weapon has combat connotations.

[Chard]

"Weapon" isn't a term I use, even for knives, knuckledusters or garottes

[taz24]

A couple of days ago i was unloading my car in front of my garage after a days pigeon shooting . My neighbour came by and stopped for a chat . He saw the pigeons in the back of the car and said ,it looks like you have had a good day . I had shot 47 birds and was about to put them into the freezer .I asked him if he would like some and he said yes please ,i have given him fresh shot game in the past and he and his family like pigeons and i duly gave him a dozen pigeons . Whilst we were talking he asked me how many weapons did i have . I said to him do you mean how many guns do i have as i dont have any weapons . He said yes isnt it the same ,guns,weapons . I said to him as far as i am concerned my guns ,although used for killing game cannot be classed as weapons as they are not used in a defensive or offensive manner . He was quite happy with my discription of my guns as guns rather than weapons .

Was i being a bit touchy or do you agee . What do you have guns or weapons . Harnser .

 

 

I've never realy thought about it like that. I do refer to guns as

weapons somtimes and do not differentiate between the two.

 

So it got me thinking and I do agree with what you say, I think .

 

It could be taken to extreems could'nt it, like a boomerang for

instance or a bow and arrow. They are not regarded as weapons so

much as toys or competion tools. Yet a shotgun or riffle is considered

as a weapon, the same as a knife I spose.

 

Good point.

Somthing to think about.

 

taz

 

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Edited July 20, 2008 by taz24

[taz24]

A couple of days ago i was unloading my car in front of my garage after a days pigeon shooting . My neighbour came by and stopped for a chat.

 

 

Now that you got me thinking about it and I reread your post

again and on that point of unloading the car, I reverse up my

drive and unload the car there and I try not to let others

see me carrying my weapon (only teaseing ) my gun

into the house. I'ts not somthing I let others know about.

 

I'm not embarresed or anything like that, its just another

security thing I do. My kids know not to talk about my guns.

 

Shooting is somthing that I do and I'm too bothered about others

knowing about it.

 

I'm I weired ?

 

Don't answer that question

 

taz

Edited July 20, 2008 by taz24

[Devilishdave]

I know what you mean. Hearing of guns being called weapons makes me a little unsetled. We are sport shooters not soldiers. I think the word weapon suggests they can be used in a violent manner, which as legitimate gun owners we obviously avoid at all cost.

 

I don’t know, when I shoot a deer in the heart with my rifle that seems to be a fairly violent act

 

Violent Definition

 

Caused by injurious or destructive force: a violent death.

Intense in force, effect, etc.; severe; extreme: violent pain; violent cold.

 

Weapon Definition

 

1. Any instrument or device for use in attack or defence in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.

2. Anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire.

3. Zoology. Any part or organ serving for attack or defence, as claws, horns, teeth, or stings.

 

Interesting to note that an animal’s claws/teeth can be classed as weapon because they are used to kill so by that definition I guess technically a sporting rifle or shotgun is a weapon. I am in agreement with the author that this term should be avoided at all costs because of the images that it congers.

 

Dave

Edited July 20, 2008 by Devilishdave

[bob300w]

Dictionary definition;

 

 

1. any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.

2. anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire.

3. Zoology. any part or organ serving for attack or defense, as claws, horns, teeth, or stings.

–verb (used with object) 4. to supply or equip with a weapon or weapons: to weapon aircraft with heat-seeking missiles.

 

Says it all methinks, like Harnser, I do not like to hear sporting guns referred to as "weapons".

I can't see that the above includes any sporting equipment of any description, including miltary surplus guns used for deer stalking. In such cases a gun ceases to be a weapon when it leaves military service.

[Cranfield]

I think it is a matter of semantics, anything that is capable of inflicting harm on someone or something gets referred to as a "weapon".

That doesn't mean that I refer to the tools I use to fix screws as a "weapon", I call it a screwdriver.

 

I own lots of things that could be used as weapons, including guns.

[myzeneye]

good point, a screw driver is a screw driver untill its thrust into someones temple (as happened recently to a 17 year old near me) then it stops being a screwdriver and becomes a weapon.......... so, i think its more the act or use which defines its name..... however, some argue that a gun by design, has only one purpose, to kill, therefore is a weapon.....(o.k, there are some dedicated clay guns, but on the whole, clay is game simulation...)

thats not my opinion, but is often the impression i get from people i talk to about my guns.....

i refer to mine as a tool. no different to anything i've got in the van, which may be equally as dangerous....(Christ, i wouldnt like to see my cordless circular saw taken to a bar brawl and that a circ, not a weapon!!! )

 

i too share my business with few, but i find reactions mixed.... some people are intreuged and inquisitive others are appalled by the thought of killing for the pot. yet off they trot to asda to get a tray of pink "meat" from the blue foam and clingfilm farm.... i dont ram my opinions down peoples throats but i do feel if they eat meat they should at least accept the fact that it comes from an animal which in tern, has to be killed.

some people are soooooooooooo naive....

[Biffo1262]

Air weapons is a much used and misleading phrase used by newspaper editors and politicians when they want to make a point and not necessarily a valid one. An air gun only becomes a weapon when it is misused for violent or threatening purposes. You never hear of a baseball 'weapon' though do you; it's still referred to a baseball bat whatever the circumstances. Emotive and misleading reporting does our sport no good at all and so the opportunity to actually correct just one person is one well taken as he may well make that valid point to some other friend and so on.

[JohnGalway]

 

It's a pet hate of mine. I don't own any weapons, I own guns, shotgun, rifles, firearms - all licenced by the proper authorities. Weapons are used to hurt people. The word weapon gives of extremely negative PR. If I'm reading a post and I see the OP talking about their weapons, I stop reading.

 

I'm shutting up because I'll just go on a rant.

[Harnser]

 

It's a pet hate of mine. I don't own any weapons, I own guns, shotgun, rifles, firearms - all licenced by the proper authorities. Weapons are used to hurt people. The word weapon gives of extremely negative PR. If I'm reading a post and I see the OP talking about their weapons, I stop reading.

 

I'm shutting up because I'll just go on a rant.

 

 

John ,

 

i didnt mean to get you into a rant . But it seems that you feel as strongly about it as i do . Harnser .

[malkiserow]

A couple of days ago i was unloading my car in front of my garage after a days pigeon shooting . My neighbour came by and stopped for a chat . He saw the pigeons in the back of the car and said ,it looks like you have had a good day . I had shot 47 birds and was about to put them into the freezer .I asked him if he would like some and he said yes please ,i have given him fresh shot game in the past and he and his family like pigeons and i duly gave him a dozen pigeons . Whilst we were talking he asked me how many weapons did i have . I said to him do you mean how many guns do i have as i dont have any weapons . He said yes isnt it the same ,guns,weapons . I said to him as far as i am concerned my guns ,although used for killing game cannot be classed as weapons as they are not used in a defensive or offensive manner . He was quite happy with my discription of my guns as guns rather than weapons .

Was i being a bit touchy or do you agee . What do you have guns or weapons . Harnser .

 

I have a shotgun

 

I also have a knife with I call a tool and not a weapon

[jcbruno]

a gun is a weapon it is a mechanical devise desingd to kill period, although most people own hunting weapons as they were desingd to kill animals as apose to a human being's, when you here a archeologist speak about ancient people and the weapons they used to hunt with is because they are weapons, but if in the public eye and to the less informed it may be tactful to refer to them as firearms or hunting tools as you raise less eyebrows with some of the more touchy feely modern thinkers out there you know the guys who listen to the backstreet boys and can often be seen putting hand lotion on there delicate lady like fingers

[casts_by_fly]

to be called a weapon implies intent or use in a harmful way.

 

Shooting game and pest animals is not 'harmful' if conducted according to the law.

 

To me, anything can be a weapon if used improperly. Guns and knives are tools.

 

thanks

rick

[MM]

its not a weapon boys, just an extension of my body

[Harnser]

its not a weapon boys, just an extension of my body

 

Whats the barrel lenght Martin . Harnser :

[bob300w]

its not a weapon boys, just an extension of my body

 

Whats the barrel lenght Martin . Harnser :

You are not going to squeeze ten pages out of this one Harnser, or ten inches out of Martin.

Slug pellets rule!!

[Harnser]

its not a weapon boys, just an extension of my body

 

Whats the barrel lenght Martin . Harnser :

You are not going to squeeze ten pages out of this one Harnser, or ten inches out of Martin.

Slug pellets rule!!

 

 

your incorrigible Bob . Harnser .

[Devilishdave]

I think it is a matter of semantics, anything that is capable of inflicting harm on someone or something gets referred to as a "weapon".

That doesn't mean that I refer to the tools I use to fix screws as a "weapon", I call it a screwdriver.

 

I own lots of things that could be used as weapons, including guns.

 

 

All of my rifles and shotguns are capable of inflicting harm on some one or somthing and I purpousefully use them to inflict harm (death as quickly as I can make it come) on my prey. Where as my knives I use in the process of hunting I could argue are not weapons because I dont ever recall using one to kill.

 

Dave

[MM]

its not a weapon boys, just an extension of my body

 

Whats the barrel lenght Martin . Harnser :

You are not going to squeeze ten pages out of this one Harnser, or ten inches out of Martin.

Slug pellets rule!!

 

 

"WHOOOOOAAAAAA". aint no MAN squeezing owt from me

[jcbruno]

a milk crate was desingd as a container but can be used as a tv stand in a bachelor apartment, a fire arm desind to kill animals ie desingd as a weapon for that purpose is a weapon how can anyone dispute that, yes many objects are desingd for one thing but people find other uses for them, in general something desingd for a purpose is understood and described for that purpose, a rifle or a shotgun desingd to be used on animals is still a weapon a hunting weapon, my rifle could also be used as a paper weight on a windy day

[Axe]

This covers it for me.

 

weap·on –noun

1. any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.

2. anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire.

3. Zoology. any part or organ serving for attack or defense, as claws, horns, teeth, or stings.

[dustyfox]

Isnt a car with a chav behind the wheel classed as a Weapon?

 

And can you find the definition of a gun?

 

 

I hate it when people call rifles guns two different things.

 

Df