Robby22 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 As above, I currently own a superten, an wondered how much id be lookin at for a FAC conversion, an also where specialises in it i.e most gun shops, or main dealer etc. thanks Robby22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ben Taylor (ex-theoben guy), would be a good start to enquire. Website is BTAS FAC air or .22lr, both have got their uses, and in my personal experience really expands your opportunitys and fun in the field after using only sub 12ft/lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 If your going to fac the superten there's only one man to send it to-John Bowkett. Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 .22RF every time. 100 yard head-shots, much more wallop, much more fun. And you can load them down with .22 Shorts if you are shooting in/around buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 .22RF every time. 100 yard head-shots, much more wallop, much more fun. Cant comment on the shorts though, havent used them. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Robbie, if you are shooting on a smallish shoot with confined boundaries stick to the FAC air rifle, if you are not in this situation and have a safe backstop reach for the 22! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpShooter14 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 .22RF every time. 100 yard head-shots, much more wallop, much more fun. And you can load them down with .22 Shorts if you are shooting in/around buildings. Get an HMR and it'll do the job even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Get an HMR and it'll do the job even better No, it doesn't actually. Dead is dead, and I prefer the versatility of a quiet 22LR to a noisy, wind-sensitive and fussy .17HMR. I have both, and the former gets disproportionately more use. A lot of the shooting I do is around livestock, horses, houses and farm buildings where a .17HMR has very little merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbeagley Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 No, it doesn't actually. Dead is dead, and I prefer the versatility of a quiet 22LR to a noisy, wind-sensitive and fussy .17HMR. I have both, and the former gets disproportionately more use. A lot of the shooting I do is around livestock, horses, houses and farm buildings where a .17HMR has very little merit. Go for the .17 HMR :blink: :blink: . It can do all the .22LR can & more. :blink: Most of my shooting is around livestock & the horses (i have show horses), are the most nervous but with a GOOD moderator the muzzle blast is non existant (all i hear is the click of the hammer, then the supersonic crack out there somewhere) so they dont know where the noise has come from.. Only the supersonic crack makes them look up, but does not scare them as that comes from way out in front of the rifle. I have shot across a field with my horse & 3 others only 20 meters to the side of me & all they do is look up, they have no idea where or what it was. I have asked people that where 100-150 yrds away in their gardens & on the yard where the horses are kept & none of them heard anything, but then they are used to hearing shotguns going off on the local shoot. As for the wind, what distance are we talking about? The.17 shoots just as accurately as any .22lr up to 75yrds in the wind & given no wind, outshoots it by miles. Fussy? The only thing i'm fussy about is the dangerous ricochet's the .22 gives off, thats why i only shoot the.17hmr now. If i need to shoot around farm buildings i get the .22 air rifle out, much safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 You won't be disappointed with FAC air either, its nice to have both. A mate of mine would use a .22lr a lot these days but he isn't shooting anything he wouldn't with his 30 ft/lb rapid. Again .22 fac air rifle has more range and killing power at extended ranges than a lot of people give them credit for. I mean I use my FAC daystate harrier to a longer range than it seems some people think .22lr is capable of. It all boils down to knowing your gun and knowing how it performs and reacts at said distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I mean I use my FAC daystate harrier to a longer range than it seems some people think .22lr is capable of. It all boils down to knowing your gun and knowing how it performs and reacts at said distance. Are you talking 75-100 yards, because that is what I consider the upper limits for my .22lr? On the .17 argument, I have a slot for it on my ticket, but have yet to feel a "need", rather than a "want" to own one. Of course, different permissions may call for different calibres. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Are you talking 75-100 yards, because that is what I consider the upper limits for my .22lr? On the .17 argument, I have a slot for it on my ticket, but have yet to feel a "need", rather than a "want" to own one. Of course, different permissions may call for different calibres. ZB I would feel comfortable out to 75 yards with my harrier, I know it is definately capable out to this range. On paper it still groups quite well at 100 but I'm not confident enough I could do it consistantly in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 If your land warrents it get 22lr ive barely used a pellet gun since getting a powder burner. Damn sight cheaper too. The last 22lr i bought (brno mod 2e) stands me at £150 including scope and mod plus one mag. What can you get for that in fac air?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbeagley Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 You won't be disappointed with FAC air either, its nice to have both. A mate of mine would use a .22lr a lot these days but he isn't shooting anything he wouldn't with his 30 ft/lb rapid. Again .22 fac air rifle has more range and killing power at extended ranges than a lot of people give them credit for. I mean I use my FAC daystate harrier to a longer range than it seems some people think .22lr is capable of. It all boils down to knowing your gun and knowing how it performs and reacts at said distance. FAC .22 Air rifle, great up to 50yrds but expensive when compared to .22LR. Rimfire .22LR Slightly better than FAC .22 air rifle but much cheaper over all..( outlay, cheap ammo, ETC.....) Rimfire .17HMR, More expensive ammo but performance wise starts where the other two finish. Excelent round, fast,flat,accurate,& with the right mod,nobody knows where the supersonic crack has come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 No, it doesn't actually. Dead is dead, and I prefer the versatility of a quiet 22LR to a noisy, wind-sensitive and fussy .17HMR. I have both, and the former gets disproportionately more use. A lot of the shooting I do is around livestock, horses, houses and farm buildings where a .17HMR has very little merit. i agree had a .17 hmr but for my shoots i found it too noisy and expensive to run soon got rid and got another slot for 22lr :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Which one did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I mean I use my FAC daystate harrier to a longer range than it seems some people think .22lr is capable of. It all boils down to knowing your gun and knowing how it performs and reacts at said distance. spot on I actually used my FAC air more than my .22lr (which I no longer have BTW).Had the same air arms 35 ft LB S410 for nearly 8 years now and if conditons allow can achieve head shots out to 70yds . If I had loads of land to cover by vehicle and shooting from a high firing point then the 22lr would win every time .No matter how skillful or experienced you are you'll always have richohets when stretching the legs of this calibre . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 The "beauty" of an air rifle pellet is that it has an aerodynamically **** up profile. Whilst it's capable of damage close up, the narrow waist and wide skirt causes drag to slow it down rapidly in addition to its minimal weight losing inertia. It has much less capacity to do damage at 100 yards away than the cleaner aerofoil section of a bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Go 22lr and you will hardly ever take the pellet gun out of the cabinet. 22lrs are much cheaper than fac airrifles and pack a lot more punch at 50yds plus you dont need to top up with air every 30 shots or so . I know many people rate .17hmr but i soon got rid of mine for another 22lr i found .17 noisy and expensive to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POW! Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 On a personal note , I got my .22 RF 40+years ago going back to an Air gun was an anticlimax , You are better off overgunned in most "Field" cases , Of late I have been impressed by the improvments in Air weapons , After a day s use with some top Airgunners , I was nstill not covinced . Those who shot my Rifle , Biased as some were , agreed in 95% of cases the LR is a better OVERALL choice, Cost wise the LR wins every time , My .22 is over 60 years old , BSA Martini single shot , good as the day it came out the factory Shooting wise . unfussy on ANY bullet , The way to go if you can get a place to use it , [ with just1 shot it sharpens your concentration!] , POW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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