Edward Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) Now rather a list of Qs im afraid but they need asking. If i am mainly going to shoot rabbits but occasionaly the odd fox, would I be better with a .17hmr or should I just use a 12b for the foxes?? If i am going to sell the rabbits would it be better for them to be shot with a .22 rather than a .17hmr I am rather taken by the .22lr cz 452 shilloette, with a 16" barrel. Is this any good are you allowed more than one .22 on your fac at one time??, my mate say your only allowed one but I think differntly. Do you have to have a mod on your fac??? is a 3-9x50 scope good enough for a .22?? Thanks Edited November 2, 2008 by EdwardtheloneShooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Now rather a list of Qs im afraid but they need asking. If i am mainly going to shoot rabbits but occasionaly the odd fox, would I be better with a .17hmr or should I just use a 12b for the foxes?? a. 17hmr would be good for rabbits at longer ranges and close range fox.it`s a much debated subject on here. as for 12b and foxes someone else might know If i am going to sell the rabbits would it be better for them to be shot with a .22 rather than a .17hmr a. i would presume with the 22lr as the less meat damage the better I am rather taken by the .22lr cz 452 shilloette, with a 16" barrel. Is this any good a. i`m sure any cz bolt action will be fine for the job in hand, great value for money are you allowed more than one .22 on your fac at one time??, my mate say your only allowed one but I think differntly. Do you have to have a mod on your fac??? a. yes i have 2 mods on my fac i`m not sure about mainland england though. best ask your feo is a 3-9x50 scope good enough for a .22?? a. a 3-9 scope will be fine if it has good optics. some folk like higher mag.i only use 22lr out to 90 ms so i don`t feel high mag is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Go for the 17HMR head shoot bunnies, use for foxes up to 80yds no more! After that distance you owe it to your quarry to buy a centrefire rifle, yes you need to put a mod on your ticket 12bore up to 35yds for charlie with BB or AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks, I think I will go for a .22 rather than a .17, because I have got loads of eley .22 ammo and If I want to shoot charlie ill get my mate round with his .223 Thanks for the replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Get a .17HMR mate - trust me no matter how much .22LR ammo you have you won't regret getting the HMR. After all I doubt whether you have more than £60 worth of .22 anyways. With my HMR I was shooting holes in the bases of 12G cartridges (ie end on Used shells) with no mises at 75 Yards today and I don't class myself as a very good shot... The HMR is super flat, fast and to be honest not that noisy (down range) those who say it is haven't got one. I would suggest the signature of mine, with a SAK mod is no more than a unmodded .22LR Sub. Down range (75 Yards+) it is virtually silent. Now for a not so subliminal message GET THE HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 I can help on a couple of these. I am rather taken by the .22lr cz 452 shilloette, with a 16" barrel. Is this any good That is exactly what I use - it is great! are you allowed more than one .22 on your fac at one time??, my mate say your only allowed one but I think differntly. You can have more than one in theory, but some constabularies might raise an eyebrow as to why you want more than one Do you have to have a mod on your fac??? Yes, you will need it as a condition on your FAC, and it will be listed on there when you purchase it. is a 3-9x50 scope good enough for a .22?? Again, this is exactly what I use on my CZ. I've never felt much of a need for any more magnification. Mine has a mildot reticle, which I find handy as a reference for holdover. Thanks HTH ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Cost of 50 22lr rounds - £2.50 Cost of 50 17HMR rounds -£10-13 That helped me make my decision lol! TBH There both cracking guns, and both calibres will do a good job. There will be die hard HMR or even 22 fans but at the end of the day its up to you mate Try having a go with both guns, there both pretty damn good calibres otherwise so many people wouldnt use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted November 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thanks I am favouring the .22 and its cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 The HMR will do everything the .22lr will do and better, better, better, better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted November 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMvjhyuTr0 Thats changed my mind just need to start saving now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Well done matey - you won't regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think if you want range and are just controling them and meat waste means nothing then the 17 HMR is a good choice, as it is very flat shooting a zero of 75yds means from 25-125yds no diffrence in aim is needed, the ammo is also more expensive. But for just general rabbiting a 22lr in my opinion is the best choice, as there is very little sound, the ammo is cheap and body shots are a good option, however it is not as flat shooting. A good average zero for the 22lr is around 60-75yds, the 17 HMR though though does kill better and is the BEST choice for foxes out of the 22lr and the 17 HMR out to no more than around 60yds. But it is suppersonic so even a nice wildcat mod will not tame it beyond the crack. Also stick to head shots with the 17 HMR as a full on chest shot will ruin meat, and there is alot of carcass danage. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Also the sillouet is a good choice, light with short barrel, exellent unbeatable combination, my ticket is getting send away today with a varo for 17 HMR on it, my FEO is letting me have 22lr and 17 HMR, looking to buy the CZ 452 Varmint 20", lloks quite nice without being rediculously expensive. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 The simple answer is.....get both!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMvjhyuTr0 Thats changed my mind just need to start saving now Why would that change your mind ? They both hit the can lol they very both accurate over the range ! The reason the HMR does more "Damage" is because it fragments when it hits. Btw you might want to do a search for STINGER ammo It will have the same "explosive" results plus is again cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hey Bigthug, I thought stingers were the answer WRONG they dont group at all well its more of a pattern and they are not flat shooting. Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 the answer to, can i have more than 1 .22 lr is YES you can i have a Ruger 10/22 tricked out, and i also just got a variation passed for a bolt action .22 lr ( said it was for night work with a night scope) but the simple answer is get both-- they both do different jobs and you,ll love the both !!! shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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