Toombsy Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 A while ago I was chatting to the owner of Whitteley Gun Shop. Really nice bloke and by all accounts a great all-round shot. Another bloke was in there, and we ended up talking pigeons, permission, great days, that sort of thing. Soon we were comparing records. Mine's 17 pigeons in a day. The other customer's was 270, while the gunshop owner's is an astronomical 437 (if I remember right - I'm still in shock!). I know that's a hell of a number of pigeons shot in one day by one gun, but personally I regard that as excessive shooting. I carry about 100 cartridges in my bag (there's hoping!) and another 50 in the car. I reckon if I ever reached the 100 mark I would call it a day, admire the bag, say thanks for a great day's sport and pack up a very happy bloke. I'm over the moon with my average of 2-5 birds per day! What do you reckon? Is 437 a bit excessive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 It might be if you were shooting that number every trip, but nobody is. With regard to limits, my motto is, "make hay while the sun shines". I enjoy my 100+ days, they make the 1-2 bird days bearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 if i had a 1000 carts in the car and they kept coming then i would back as many as i could hit , but that would be **** law my biggest bag is about 12 one day maybe :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 its not really about bags and limits, generally the purpose of your trip will be crop protection, if they are coming that hard that youve shot 100 by 11am which is quite possible on the right day and you pack up who protects the crop until dusk, do you just shoot up in the air or try to scare them some other way, you need to shoot them not only to save the crop for today but tomorrow and the next day because every pigeon you shoot cant eat any more crops, ever, i'm sure your farmer wouldn't be too happy if you went home having shot enough to satisfy yourself leaving his field to a huge flock of birds. mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) Do I have a limit......yes.....when I run out of cartridges. lol :look: I do not have a limit, I enjoy my shooting and the more I shoot the more I enjoy it. + because I am a farmer I know how much damage they do to crops, so I like to take as many out as possible. My best day is 154 and that added to dads (because we shoot in the same hide) 205 made a great bag of 359 pigeons. I carry around 36 cartridges on me (26 in my cartridge belt around and 10 in my coat pocket) + I have around 75 in my cartridge bag + 175 in a metal shell case and dad has around 100 more than me. I generally go by that we shoot all winter only getting small bags so that we can get the good shooting in the summer time. Edited February 6, 2009 by MerseaDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I think it depends on if your shooting for sport or shooting to protect a crop. Sport shooting you tend to set your limits where as covering crops you have to do whats right for the farmer. IMHO :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asap Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have also had the same storey and felt like my bags were rubbish but after talking to a good friend of daves the total bag of 400+ was shot by 6 guns over a very large field. divide the total by 6 and the numbers are no different to any other shooters prize bag. Also i have learnt now that a lot of people stretch the truth sometimes when it comes to numbers , many are like fishermen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 in summer if i go out and hit 50 birds, im happy with that. That two me is a good afternoons shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 If you are there to shoot pigeons then the primary reason you are there is to protect crops . Your duty to your farmer is to shoot as many pigeons as you can so that they do not come back another day . The bests day pigeon shooting i ever had was just under 600 pigeons shared by myself and a friend shooting on harvested sweetcorn . I dont know how many i shot or how many my pal shot as i stopped counting at 150 and just carried on shooting . It didnt stop there at the shooting .All the birds had to picked and bagged and down to the game dealer . Believe me a very long day and one big bruise on my shoulder and a headache . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltsmark Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I thought the law states pigeon can not be shot for sport, only crop protection if my thinking is right there should be no limit. only personal cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 try tellin the farmer who sfeild is gettin stripped that uv shot 100 birds and that enough bet ull soon be lookin for a new farm to shoot over my best day was one day last summer on rape stubble started at 9 30am by 12pm i had fired 250 cartridges and picked up 187 birds had to stop as it was to hot for my dog and after pickin all they birds they were f ------ so a had no choice but to stop lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toombsy Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Good little debate. Better than watching the telly. If I do ever shoot 100, then pack up and the farmer saw me I'd tell him the truth - I can't afford to shoot anymore than that. There's got to be a bit of give and take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) wintertime i wouldnt realy have a limit but summertime i would stop at around 60/70 .if i was to get that many. Edited February 7, 2009 by shootnfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Good little debate. Better than watching the telly. If I do ever shoot 100, then pack up and the farmer saw me I'd tell him the truth - I can't afford to shoot anymore than that. There's got to be a bit of give and take. fair comment toombsy but if u cant give him the protetion he want he will look else where (been there ) some ones always looking for shooting remember its his lively hood at stake if it was urs whot would u do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beater Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 As long as the birds end up in the food chain, via game dealer or butcher, pub, given to friends, on your own plate or even for ferrets, there is no problem with big bags IMO. I dont agree if there just gona be dumped in corner of a field tho. In regards to getting kicked off your permission if you dont shoot large bags is tosh, there will be alot on here who have alot more than a 2 to 1 kill ratio when decoying. So farmer may here 200 shots in the day but may only be 30/40 in bag, thats Worse cos your not doing a very good job. Thats when they should lose permission & get to clay ground, not for not shooting large bags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 my biggest bag is 112 with me and my mate shooting. Not my best day though, my best day was a bag of 54 in a couple of hours over beans, some very testing shots due to the wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 its not really about bags and limits, generally the purpose of your trip will be crop protection, if they are coming that hard that youve shot 100 by 11am which is quite possible on the right day and you pack up who protects the crop until dusk, do you just shoot up in the air or try to scare them some other way, you need to shoot them not only to save the crop for today but tomorrow and the next day because every pigeon you shoot cant eat any more crops, ever, i'm sure your farmer wouldn't be too happy if you went home having shot enough to satisfy yourself leaving his field to a huge flock of birds. mikee I am with you on this one as we all should in it for crop protection! Butmhaving said that............. my biggest bag for a day was 39, but trust me .............I am gonna get to the 100 mark soon !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 As long as the birds end up in the food chain, via game dealer or butcher, pub, given to friends, on your own plate or even for ferrets, there is no problem with big bags IMO. I dont agree if there just gona be dumped in corner of a field tho. In regards to getting kicked off your permission if you dont shoot large bags is tosh, there will be alot on here who have alot more than a 2 to 1 kill ratio when decoying. So farmer may here 200 shots in the day but may only be 30/40 in bag, thats Worse cos your not doing a very good job. Thats when they should lose permission & get to clay ground, not for not shooting large bags! i agree with u on the dumping but a think u miss the point am making if birds r hitting a field and say u fire 100 shots by lunch time it doesnt mater how many u kill( a bang still scares them off)if u leave at lunch time with birds still coming to the field who protects the field in the after noon when they feed hard for the roost thats when farmers are not going to be happy av had it happen to me and friends heve had it as well (might just be scottish farmers tho lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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