BSA-airgunner Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message641099/pg1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Does not supprise me one bit, my friend is a web server designer for BT, and the police, MI5 and MI6 have been able to read through your browsing history and read e-mails for years, MI5 (Internal security service) has a hardwired connection to all ISP servers, and they have RATS (Remote administrator tools) to scan peoples computer without you knowing whilst you are online for files perhaps linked to things such as bomb making, or child pornography. Once you search for a word like bomb on google your IP address is tagged and your ISP knows exactly who you are, although the police need a warant to search your computer like that, they still know your browsing habbits and sites visited. It is a joke people still think they cannot actually do that. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Why would you want to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Remote access tools? do they work with linux and mac then, or just PC? I can believe that, if they have reason to, they could teack your browsing history, but otherwise, it strikes me that that is unwarrented and an invasion of privacy. if that was me, I'd go to court and have their hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Seems a bit strange to me. He posts a pic on Facebook (accessed only by 'friends') and gets his certificate revoked, and yet we post pics on a public forum everyday and no bother Something more to the story me thinks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Does not supprise me one bit, my friend is a web server designer for BT, and the police, MI5 and MI6 have been able to read through your browsing history and read e-mails for years, MI5 (Internal security service) has a hardwired connection to all ISP servers, and they have RATS (Remote administrator tools) to scan peoples computer without you knowing whilst you are online for files perhaps linked to things such as bomb making, or child pornography. Once you search for a word like bomb on google your IP address is tagged and your ISP knows exactly who you are, although the police need a warant to search your computer like that, they still know your browsing habbits and sites visited. It is a joke people still think they cannot actually do that. Steve So if I type into Google "How to make Bombs" or " Homemade bombs " from my bosses PC, dibble will come around in a flash and lift him? I hope so John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 What a lot of ******** either the guy is being economical with the truth or a lawyer will turn that on its head no problem. If the pics were genunely only available to close friends how did the police ever find out about it? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 There has to be more to it than meets the eye, either that or it is not even going to make court once his solicitor and the force solicitor looks at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Jonno. Mebbe, but that might also get you dismissed for gross misconduct (unauthorised use of computers often gets put under that) when/if plod came round to have a "chat" with your boss. I'm not sure that you could get done under the computer misuse act though. Thinking about it, I am reasonably sure the there is something in the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) that limits this type of thing. Anyone from the police here that knows about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) I agree with the next post on that link. Somebody there suggests that there must be more to it than that. I think the bloke who got his license revoked is telling a bit of a tall tale there, or half the story I learnt yesterday that two blokes who I used to go clay shooting with regularly have had their licenses revoked. One for threatening a bloke who owed him money and the other for belting a bloke who hit him first . I think he went too far with the retaliation, but it just shows how delicate gun ownership can be Another lad I was shooting with yesterday was asked by a landlord friend, if he would accompany him to one of his flats, where he was going to evict a tenant . He wisely declined, pointing out that when it turned nasty, he had too much to lose with his license etc, and he said he wanted nothing to do with it. I think we need to display saintly behaviour all the time, or run the risk of losing it Edited April 12, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 I know someone who posed with their shotgun and a fake Spliff, posted it on facebook and then got a visit from the plod. Not sure what the outcome was but I know he got a whole load of **** off plod. I know I am careful who I show my guns to, and always clean my guns in a locked room out of sight of the neighbours. I would never allow myself to be photographed with my guns. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Every week/month, there are thousands of photos published in magazines, of people shooting. It clearly is not a problem being photographed with a gun. A spliff AND a gun - problem I still say there's more to the original story than meets the eye. Some of the **** nonsense I've seen on Facebook, I'd hate to think what the photograph was of . Something idiotic no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Plenty of pictures of me out shooting on Facebook. I'm doing NOTHING illegal so why hide what I do? Anyone could just as easily tell I have guns in the house if they watch me entering or leaving the house with guns or see any country sports stickers in the car. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Plenty of pictures of me out shooting on Facebook. I'm doing NOTHING illegal so why hide what I do? Anyone could just as easily tell I have guns in the house if they watch me entering or leaving the house with guns or see any country sports stickers in the car. FM There's also plenty of pictures of people with guns on here, and I wouldn't expect them to cause problems for anybody From the point of view of legality, there's no difference between pictures on this site and on Facebook Edited April 12, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Must be more to this than they are letting on ,I've had a video of me clay shooting on facebook for month's with no problems (so far) Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 What did they actually say, it cant of just been for putting a pic of a shotgun on the internet...my son has one of him holding a semi on bebo Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 I would suggest that "Iceman RIP" is what is politely known as a "fantasist". Look where he chooses to post his story, "Godlike Productions. com" , subheading, "UFOs, Conspiracy Theorists, Lunatic Fringe". I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Does not supprise me one bit, my friend is a web server designer for BT, and the police, MI5 and MI6 have been able to read through your browsing history and read e-mails for years, MI5 (Internal security service) has a hardwired connection to all ISP servers, and they have RATS (Remote administrator tools) to scan peoples computer without you knowing whilst you are online for files perhaps linked to things such as bomb making, or child pornography. Once you search for a word like bomb on google your IP address is tagged and your ISP knows exactly who you are, although the police need a warant to search your computer like that, they still know your browsing habbits and sites visited. It is a joke people still think they cannot actually do that. Steve Irrespective of having the physical capability to do so, MI5 and 6 cant investigate (ie look at your files or history) anything you do online without having very strong justification and evidence that there is a requirement to do so. They cannot just have a poke about on your computer to see what you are up to. The guy on the link is a fantasist. ZB Edited April 12, 2009 by Zapp Brannigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liamlumsden Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 facebook the work of the devil lol never liked it never use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Some interesting stuff here. Personally, I would never use anything like Facebook. A friend of mine is a manager in on of the High Street Banks. She always laughs when anyone mentions Facebook. It's common practice for managers to look through facebook trawling for the names of staff members. She tells me its amazing what people will put on there for everyone to read. E.g. "My name's X and I'm pulling a 'sicky' today HA!HA!" They look really surprised when they get called in to the managers office for a 'chat'!!! Of course, we are all very circumspect about what we say in an open forum. You could either get a visit from 'anti's' - they WILL read these forums or, from half a dozen blokes who ask very nicely for your safe keys .... What did they used to say? "Careless talk costs lives." Safe shooting Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 my son has one of him holding a semi on bebo Steve I had one of me holding a semi on a Boy Scout website. I was banned, prosecuted and put on the sex offenders register. I still like camping though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilstoat Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) i saw somewhere on the letter that came with my ticket stating possible offences for not complying with the license that it's an offence to advertise the fact you have a shotgun, but not sure ? Edited April 13, 2009 by evilstoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 i saw somewhere on the letter that came with my ticket stating possible offences for not complying with the license that it's an offence to advertise the fact you have a shotgun, but not sure ? That's a vast percentage of the people that have ever mentioned their gun on here stuffed then. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilstoat Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 That's a vast percentage of the people that have ever mentioned their gun on here stuffed then. FM likei said i'm not sure, but i will have to have a hunt around for the letter i got with the ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 One has to remember that "legal ownership" of shotguns and firearms in Britain is governed by several things: . Firearms (including amendment) acts 1968-1997 . Firearms "Rules" 1998 . Anti-social Behavior act 2003 . Violent Crime "Reduction" act 2008 . Possibly other acts I have forgotten to mention . The 2002 Home office firearms guidance And finally: The applicable police force's own interpretation of the above, regardless of whether their interpretation is conflicted or politically-motivated. It's really luck of the draw half the time with them regardless of the actual contents of the statutes. Although I am somewhat suspicious of whether the whole story is being told by the poster or not. Regardless of which, there are certainly some very "PC" firearms licensing employees that might take such a situation and act on it. General internet illiteracy, combined with certain views of what are "inappropriate views" in a certificate holder: Could be enough for a licensing employee to push for a revocation, regardless as to whether the concerns are real or just dressed-up for effect when the report to the Chief Constable recommends that he sign-off on a revocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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