Supersonic Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi I have a dilemma and call upon your experience. My permission is over 300+ acres of farmland and stately home grounds, attached to the stately home is an old folks home. My reason for getting the permission years back was the rule of no loud guns near the old folks home but the rabbits on the front and back lawns must go, hence my AAS410 with silencer (sub 12ftlb). I then got my SGC and have great fun with the woodies, crows & squirrels. I then got my FAC for .17hmr and FAC air. They don't mind the hmr round the house during the day but obviously it's too loud at night. The rabbits round the house and lawns (or anywhere) don't come out during the day now since 2 families of buzzards took up residence. At night the AAS410 isn't enough as despite all the stalking skills it's flat and open. So do I go FAC air or a variation for a moderated .22lr? Quietness and distance are the key factors, and the FEO has every confidence in my abilities as I was in the military for 14 years and I'm 44 years young. Your thoughts and opinions please? (oh and the land has been cleared for .223) Thanks in advance. Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 22LR ...for me the guns are cheaper and the ammo has more knock......FAC air bounces just as much as 22LR Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 But the good thing, with the Fac .22 air rifle is the cost of pellets in comparison to.22lr,and your not limited to how many you can hold at any one time,hence less journeys to the gun shop,it really depends on what suits your needs best,but dont rule out Fac air rifles,they really are cracking bits of kit, and roll rabbits with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 .22LR every time. It is consistent, highly accurate and good for rabbits out to 120 yards. It's much more versatile and punchy than FAC air. 150 rounds of .22LR is easily carried about your person, a spare buddy bottle or pump not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Get a 10/22 fully tricked up - most fun you can have with your clothes on. Whisper quiet with subs, to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 well i have to vote for fac air.it is the cheapest shooting you can do and can be used in plenty of applications where 22lr is just too much gun.great for branching. 22lr has its place as well though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 id suggest a 10/22 like mung. not sure what the range of a fac air rifle is but my 10/22 is accurate enough at 100m. as well as that im not sure what money a decent fac rifle goes for, but i reckon you could pick up a 10/22 or similar for the same or less money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 SO if .22lr is as accurate as you say Baldrick,why would you need to carry 150 rounds with you? yes i agree its punchier than .22 Air,but in most rabbit shooting ,its too much as Tweedledee has already stated, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 SO if .22lr is as accurate as you say Baldrick,why would you need to carry 150 rounds with you? yes i agree its punchier than .22 Air,but in most rabbit shooting ,its too much as Tweedledee has already stated, because its easy to carry 150 rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN88 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 i love my .22 FAC accurate and SO QUITE and drops them rabbits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Because its easy to carry 150 rounds? so how many of them 150 rounds would you use on an average night??? i guess no-where near 150 but if there easy to carry ,crack on,i prefer to travel light when shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Bluebarrels, some of us do indeed get through 150 rounds in a night, to your undoubted surprise. Multiply that quantity by three on a night lamping rabbits over summer stubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) Because its easy to carry 150 rounds? so how many of them 150 rounds would you use on an average night??? i guess no-where near 150 but if there easy to carry ,crack on,i prefer to travel light when shooting no where hear the 150 usually, but i prefer having it and not needing it than needing it and not having it. anyway, considering 150 rounds of yellow jackets is 3 boxes of 50, which together are smaller in size than a packet of cigarettes, and dont weight much more than an old mobile phone, i fail to see how that means im not travelling light? and may i ask how many shots you can get from your air rifle before it needs hooked up to a gas bottle? Edited April 28, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Baldrick. Fancy sending some of your rabbits down our way?! I'm lucky to see 2 or 3 a night And not because i scared em away :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 22lr every time, deadly out to 120 yards. Really quiet. I would recommend the CZ452 range as they are bolts they can be recycled quieter than my mates 10/22 . Depends on how quiet you have to be. I usually carry about 90 rounds a night, but it has been known to have to go back to the car to restock. Happy days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 .22lr it is then - cheers guys!! Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 You made the right choice. Forget the daftness over how many rounds you should carry. Shooting from a vehicle at night at the right time of year you will tonk through the ammo at a fair old pace - 150 shots in a night is not surprising if you have a lot of ground to cover. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 .22lr it is then - cheers guys!! Nige Correct choice sir.... in fact I'm going to drop FAC air off my ticket in favour of a .17HMR as I havent filled teh vacant slot for 4years. I use CB longs in my rimmies which produce about 30ish ft-lbs (Good FAC air territory) but you dont need to lug all the air stuff with you, they are quieter and considerably more accurate in a good rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Get a 10/22 fully tricked up - most fun you can have with your clothes on. Whisper quiet with subs, to boot. i'd agree except for one thing - a 10/22 is never whisper quiet, the sound of the bolt cycling can be relatively loud. At least compared to a good silenced bolt action where the only noticeable sound is the bullet impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 no where hear the 150 usually, but i prefer having it and not needing it than needing it and not having it. anyway, considering 150 rounds of yellow jackets is 3 boxes of 50, which together are smaller in size than a packet of cigarettes, and dont weight much more than an old mobile phone, i fail to see how that means im not travelling light? and may i ask how many shots you can get from your air rifle before it needs hooked up to a gas bottle? Fair point u made there about having it and not needing it,and i know the rabbit shooting over your way can be exceptional,i had the shooting permissions on Magilligan for two years,never in my life have i seen so many rabbits,a bag of 200 was the norm for a full days shooting,they were good days,and the crow shooting was also very very good :blink: BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Fair point u made there about having it and not needing it,and i know the rabbit shooting over your way can be exceptional,i had the shooting permissions on Magilligan for two years,never in my life have i seen so many rabbits,a bag of 200 was the norm for a full days shooting,they were good days,and the crow shooting was also very very good BB fair play! yeah over here can be funny, some places you wont see them for months (alot of bop's around here lately) but i noticed yesterday in my uncles field that there was about 20 hopping around, range approx 60 yards but he says its absolutely teeming with them at dusk/night. he was telling me he'd asked some guy with ferrets to come up, but the guy wanted to wait til the summer time for some reason. my answer was like "eh, hello, hunting mad nephew with a .22lr is standing here you know" :blink: so ill be heading up there some night soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 .22LR every time. It is consistent, highly accurate and good for rabbits out to 120 yards. It's much more versatile and punchy than FAC air. 150 rounds of .22LR is easily carried about your person, a spare buddy bottle or pump not. Absolutely, rimfire is lighter, more versatile, you can get rounds from very low power through to hyper velocity in a standard LR and you only need a pocket full of rounds that don't run out of power just when you need it. Might i suggest you consider a bolt action rather than a semi though, personally i get far more satisfaction knowing i've got to be accurate with the first shot rather than blasting away like a *****y machine gun like some of my ex-shooting partners used to do. I find my Anschutz is far more accurate than any semi i've ever used as well. That's not a knock at semis, i've still got one myself, i just get more personal satisfaction from a bolt action and it doesn't jam with low velocity rounds either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted May 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Spoke to my FEO about it and he's fine about it, the letter and certificate are now in the post to him :look: Time to start scouring the for sale section methinks!! Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Spoke to my FEO about it and he's fine about it, the letter and certificate are now in the post to him Time to start scouring the for sale section methinks!! Nige If you can find a 2ndhand Sako Finnfire you will not regret it. I have some lovely rifles but if I could only keep one that would be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I dont know how people can say the 22lr is too much gun...its the smallest rimfire you can shoot with Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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