John_R Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 This is where forums like this are sooo handy. If you read Mark Stone's review of these carts he said recoil was no problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Don't believe all that you read When he wrote a gun test on a Blaser, the trigger pull weight was 5lbs 3oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mink Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Hi i just bought 500 gamebore blue diamond 28g after trying kent velocity the recoil was much reduced and the cost was not that much more. far nicer to use and not too painful when i tried them in my sxs. Cheers mink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Amen to that BlaserF3 I find the most laughable "reviews" to be those in Sporting Gun by the guy from justcartridges.com, who does not so much review as he does state what he sells and how much it costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 This is where forums like this are sooo handy. If you read Mark Stone's review of these carts he said recoil was no problem at all. Recoil isn't a problem at all, right up until you fire them. Then it kicks you in the face. Horrible bloody cartridges. I am sure that Express have bought a load and rebadged them English Sporter. Either that or there is some cheap powder doing the rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I have used over a 1000 Velocity cartridges in 100-150 sessions and had no after effects at all.They are an excellent cartridge for the money (£120/1000) if that can be said of any cartridge these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) You get what you pay for. I have shot many D&Js and the latest English Sporter - no probs. But then, I have no qualms about using GM3 powder! I cannot comment on the performance of the Kent, BUT my mate brought me well over a 1000 Kent Fibre empties last week, from a clay ground and the vast majority of hulls contained unburnt powder with powder kernals* impressed into the outer plastic. Examination of primer strikes indicated they had been fired in a range of guns. With the cases 'gummy' from encrusted flakes, there must have been some pretty mucky chambers and internal workings after using them. Has anyone noticed this with the Kent? FC *Edit: The 'powder' is a disc propellant Edited May 25, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Has anyone noticed this with the Kent? The Kent Velocitys i use are 32gm 6's and to be honest i find them a clean cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevew Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I've been using 28g 7.5 Kent Velocity for a while, bought because they were cheap at the time. Shot 250 in a day about a month back, at clays, through my 525 never found recoil to be a problem. I've just bought 2000 English Sporter from York Guns (£115/1000) also because they're cheap, but haven't used any yet. If they shoot the same as the Kents I'll be happy. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Pasha Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Tried the English Sporter cartridges - they pattern all right but they do kick! What I found was that they were mucky and left a lot of that clear plasticky residue (that's really hard to get off) at the breech end of the barrels of my o/u. Tried them in semi (see recoil above!) but after only 40 shots they had left loads of really burnt on and hard to shift deposits. Have now given them up as a bad job and gone back to Fiocchi Top 1's - easy on the pocket and the shoulder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_reloader Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 You will find that "cheap" cartidges use fast buring powder to keep the charge weight down and hence fast burning will result in puchy recoil. More expensive cartirdges will use a slower burning powder but use more powder and hence cost more to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 just starting back on the clay and find the english sporters 7.5 ok not too dirty and recoil is fine with me. you should clean your gun after every use anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Oh and one other question, are you limited to the number of cartridges that you can purchase at any one time? Cheers... Flymo My RFD said no limit but according to him if you want to store more than 10,000 you need a permit from the council, thats Essex of course, dunno about elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) Absolutely nothing wrong with English Sporter. Good middle of the road/cheap cartridge, not dirty, not punchy, not the best but not expensive Edited September 13, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevew Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I used up the last of my English Sporters this weekend, my brother in law had already got us a 1000 each of Kent Velocity from York Guns last weekend. He shot last weekend and ended up taking his gun in due to misfires, we went to Pinewood SG on Saturday, second shot misfired then every other one so he swapped to my gun. After a couple of shots with mine (they're both Browning 525's) mine started misfiring, we checked the cartridges out and found the Kent primers were set in a bit deeper than the English Sporters, they work fine in my Extrema but the 525's can't fire them reliably. The first lot of Kent's I had were fine, the English Sporters were fine, these are going back to swap for something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_reloader Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 You are limited to the quantity of cartridges you can store see http://www.hse.gov.uk/explosives/information/shooting.htm The quantity of powder is "net" ie about 22grains + primer (0.3 grains) in each cartridge not the gross weight of the cartridge including case, shot etc. So in practice you can keep quite a lot of cartridges. If you need more you nreed to register with the police (up to 250kg) or get a licence from the HSE for above 250kg If you reload or shoot black powder or rifles etc it all adds to what you can keep. But who has ever had the above policy enforced on them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 These are the first ever cartridges i've come across that i'd actively stay away from. They are v dirty, leave hard to remove residue on my barrels and pattern terribly. I'd like to say it was just in my gun but almost everyone at my club has the same problems with them. We are currently getting shot ( ) of the last of them as we bought 10,000 of them as the club cartridge. Going back to Blue Diamond As far as i know you can only store (and therefore buy) 10,000 at a time, after that you need an RFD license, or so i was told by my FLD. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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