mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) IVE OFFICIALLY LOST ALL FAITH IN THIS COUNTRY.... on friday i went out with 3 mates (2 girls and frank) well it was a great day (i really dont go out often... im a right house hermit me) and we went down the river, all good there well when it came time to walk back we headed off got tog a chat... a main road (cardington road for those who know bedford, at the junction on to mareth road) we werent causing trouble just walking along having a chat when the unmistakeable CHAVVY words from behind us are heard "OI BLUD" we didnt react we carried on walking while they kept calling to me and frank... as we went onto mareth road (a simple right) i took a glimpse 5 or 6 of em.... they noticed i had looked "oi blud what you got for me" i was gobsmacked (my mnd ran i was ******** out) one (an idian lad) came up to me with his hand behind him under his jacket (well obviously now im jelly) he came up and they continued to say "what you got for me what you got for me" "what you got in your pocket" "turn out your pockets i wanna see what you got" i reffused then the young idian fella tried to pat me down (grabbed at my right pocket, luckily my mobile was in my other pocket) i slapped his hand away... then "oi blud dont touch my boys hand like that" well now i got brave (was with my best mate of 12 years (lauren) and my ex (amy) and i was trying to keep attention from them) well i said "no he tries to pat me down again ill deck him" (my mind was screaming at me, WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU DOPY PILOK) then "OI BLUD WATCH WHAT YOU SAY TO ME...." then the idian went for my pocket again i spun pushed him away... i walked as fast as i could away then "OI HE'S GOT A PHONE GET IT" I TURNED AROUND AND THEY HAD GONE FOR FRANK I WAS ABOUT TO GO BACK TO HELP HIM WHEN HE GOT LOOSE OF EM... he came up to us quick and we just walked fast away with the girls... i was still pretty freaked out when i got home... but it brings me to my point.... what the hell are the youth coming to... im 15 but i dont go round trying to mug people... as soon as i got home i told mum... and then my brother popped over after work and mum told him (GREAT) and then i got a lecture on getting a distance from and asailant and phoning him (he works at vauxhall as a mechanic so he wasnt far...) but i darent risk taking my phone out of my pocket during a situation like that..... i could understand his point he doesnt want people trying that sorta thing (esspecially after what happened to my cousin danny, broken jaw, broken nose, split lip, cauliflower ear, concussion just because he wouldnt give them his wallet and there were 8 of them) my brother also mentioned the get a punchbag and use it idea (he has mentioned it before but i never thought it necesary, now i do) i used to box but i havent for years and now im thinkng of going back just to learn to protect myself because im actually a scrawny little weakling.... ....ANYWAY..... BACK TO MY QUESTION TO YOU LOT... what would you have done? if you were me would you have phoned my bro? or would you have just run till you were safe? or fought back? taught them a lesson? (bare in mind there were 5 or 6 of them... and im scrawny although when angry i can pack a punch because it keeps going through my head... what i should have done... what i could have done.... what i didnt do... and im looking for a bit of a varied answer to clear it up (before you ask about ringing the police.... DONT... i didnt because they wouldnt have done anything... they didnt steal anything from me or my mate...luckily, but they wouldnt have done anything thanks... ATB Mark Edited May 31, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 We speak english here would you like to write that again Ps, im **** at english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) sorry i think i know what you mean... the blud stuff is seriously the way these chavs were talking... sorry about that... i like to be accurate.... (call me chavvist but i dont care... i hate them... scum of the earth...) Edited May 31, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Try your best to get away like you did until you know you've got no chance. If it doesn't work then take on the biggest one and give him all you've got. They'll either think your hard or crazy and if you can get the better of the biggest one the others are unlikely to bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstpol Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Mark. You have to report it, they cant do anything unless you do, do not fall foul of the old complacency, with good intelligence it is possible to identify suspects, the odds are they are known to the police and might be easy to identify, also (here is the bad bit) it is your duty, how are you going to feel if tomorrow you hear on the news that someone has been stabbed and the description fits your assailant and you never reported it. People keep saying the police cant or wont do anything, but it is certain that they cant or wont if it is not reported to them, bite your lip and ring them. Bit of good advice is ift it happens again run and keep running till you are safe run into a shop or any other place with people in it then ring 999. it has to be done, glad you are safe and not injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I would have told them to **** off and explained that if they wanted to start something then at least one of them would loose some teeth. If I were you then I would probably have tried to talk my way out of it. If you dont want to get kicking then give them something to keep them happy and call the police keeping tabs on them until they arrive. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift4me Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 It sounds like you played it the right way. You got away from them with your friends and that is enough. I agree with the others about reporting them. Police need information to do their job. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 hurstpol, your advice is helpful i will look at phoning the police but im still not certain.... as for the safe into a shop.... nope... about 2 months ago someone was chased into the shop at the end of my street with a pocket knife... (ok not a major blade but replace that little pocket knife with a eisbar or a machette not long before this country in my heart i wish that they would either sort out these god dam chavs and nutcase youths or let someone who knows what they are doing do so.... put me in possession of all the PW members arm them well and ill have this country turned around ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Would have been straight on the phone to someone who can look after themselves. Better still, name dropping some locally known hard lads names while on the phone, both of which would have made your would be muggers think twice. If it came to it, 'actively discourage' the instigator from continuing with his behaviour. Chances are his mates are living in his shadow and like previously mentioned, they won't fancy their chances one bit if 'their boy' is lying on the ground crying clenching his nose and nut sack at the same time. Very little point acting the tough guy if you know your gonna get 'merked' however like you say, easier said than done if you have a bit of a temper when someone is acting the **** and getting in your face. Just remember, you potentially jeopardise your SGC application if you get done for ABH/GBH. Much better to walk away as you WILL bump into them on another day, and just maybe the odds will be a little more in your favour. FM Edited May 31, 2009 by Ferret Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 i would have run like a ******. one on one is ok. two against one is a challenge. any more, and you need to be swift like the Linford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I would have, tried to fight back if I was cornered, with no way out, otherwise run, and run fast...they will want to keep it close and personal so get to people as fast as you can and call the police. However in a real world situation if the **** really hits the fan and you are cornered and standers by usually do nothing, you best bet is to try and fight. Just remember everyone feels pain, and learn to block and defend (boxing will help), becuase if you get into a fight and if he throws the first punch and if he happens to fracture your nose (especially for the first time) you are going to at least have teared eyes, and not seeing is really bad in a fight trust me. You will want to have first strike, however this also comes with the burden of usually being named you started the fight, however if you are cornered then this is probably not so bad. But you want to strike first in a area that will cause him to feel most pain. Going for a knockout blow at your age is going to be hard so your best bet is to just cause as much pain as possible, this means breaking noses, (the easiest way to do this is to land your hardest punch on the bridge of his nose)..and not just flail..also if its a guy, and it means grabbing some b******* to defend yourself then so be it. Do not think guys that are smaller than you cant fight as well, my mate is the same as my 15yr old son and he is a ex rugby player and bouncer he is a pretty lean strong guy, and has beaten many taller blokes in fights. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 steve, i know what to do in a fight (thanks to my joys of a temper and boxing... oh and school fights help aswell) i like FM's thing about jeapordising my SGC well i wouldnt jeapordise it... if something happened they would throw the first punch (people around my way are cocky) at the moment im keeping my nose hidden... just relaxing around the house shooting and when the season open fishing (CANT WAIT 15 DAYS WOOO) im not short im just scrawny i am in the process of trying to put some weight on and build myself a little (NO im not body building im just keeping in shape) 1 thing i have learnt in fight is to let them throw the first punch... this puts you in a safe posistion, anything that happens from then on, on your side is considered self deffence... i was taught in boxing a small sharp jab to the nose is a handy way to disorientate... honestly im not a strong lad i play rugby but my fitness has gone down hill recently... im going to get myself back to a good level of fitness and keep up with it... luckily im a good runner.... and i know when and were to run.... it was the fact it was in BROAD DAYLIGHT and it was right next to a main road... the only bloody time that the road is Quiet is the time i almost get mugged..... thanks for the help guys it is putting my mind to rest.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) A nicely placed 'rhino stopper' into the chops of the gobbyest chav normaly does the trick Edited May 31, 2009 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Buy a loyal, intelligent and discreetly formidable dog. Not a Staffy or some other posers' dog, but something like a Belgian Malinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofurness Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hi Mark I have been to some really scummy places both with the army an with work when im away in the wagon. If your confronted try to work out which chav is the biggest n*b an give him so much verbal you could be mistaken for someone with turettes if that fails bite his nose off an run like ****. but in all seriousness dont do anything to jepordise your chances of getting your gun licences in the future, chavs have nowt to loose you have! Jethro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 A nicely placed 'rhino stopper' into the chops of the gobbyest chav normaly does the trick Indeed, it does tend to bring matters to a swift conclusion Learn to fight dirty and get yourself some hardcore mates. Worked for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 this is the part i always argue.if anyone gave these thugs a dogs beating how could you fault them. people have lost the old value RESPECT. at any age never would i have dreamt at hassling other folk.i for one think if they got a dogs beating and hammered to within an inch of their life they might think twice about doing it again.sad to say the uk government is happy to stand by and watch good old england go down the pan.needless to say if that chap had have tried to get near my pocket i would have had a good go and reshaping his nose even if they had beat me senseless.i reckon if the ringleader got got blinded the others may not be so tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 baldrick... i have a loyal dog but he wasnt with me at the time... he is stil only a pup at the moment... but id rather them have a go at me than my dog he is only a pup and he is in all my companion he is obidient but i think if they tried to attack me he would rather play than help ALTHOUGH if they hurt him id would rip there bloody head of and hang said head from the nearest tree.... but im NOT going to jeapordise my chances of an SGC... have been wanting to try and learn Akido for a while, im going to self teach it... (if you dont know what it is check it out on youtube... its pretty cool... all about disarming/disabling your assailant (stopping said assailant... ive learnt some already but i would like to learn the helpful skills....) ATB Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 tweedle... if i hadnt been frozen with fear and shock (with someone coming at you like they had a knife) i would have glady have "put his arm were it should have been2 if you get what i mean.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I think if it really comes down to winning and getting away reasonably unhurt you have to do all you can. Kick, bite, shove your fingers in their eyes - pretty much anything that gives you an advantage should be done. Grabbing someones nuts is a small price to pay for looking after yourself and your friends! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ju-Jitsu :blink: My eldest lad does it, and he's very good at it now. It's very unpleasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Mark, I studied and practised Aikido on a daily basis for a very long time. It looks fantastic in the movies and on the mat, but it is sod-all help in actual street-fighting. You're much better off learning to box well, or mastering something really aggressive, like Muay Thai. There are several guys on here who have posted previously about MMA. If you want to learn how to protect yourself, accept that time spent getting walloped in the ring is time spent well. You could just carry a 'yard of truth' or a sjambok when out walking the dog. That'll learn 'em. N.B., I gather that 'Gymbox', the chain of gyms in London, has now started a course called 'Chavfighting'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 balls to all this ninja ****, the only safe way is get distance between you and them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineshooter Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Can you only hunt Chavs after the Glorious 12th. Seriously though this is becoming a far too regular occurance and they do it because there is a high chance of getting away with it, report it Mark, at least the police may look out for them, who knows what could have happened, you owe it to the others in town who may meet these guys next. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Some things never change, aged the same as you I had a similar incident and received a broken cheek bone and nose, however these may have been only old wounds from rugby that were opened up again, certainly my nose was broken 3 or 4 times prior........ still they didn`t get anything off me. It certainly isn`t a new thing and I doubt it will change in time, my event happened in the mid 1970`s :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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