Glensman Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 This is going to seem silly to people such as yourselves, but where I'm from there are extremely few people with centrefire rifles. and those who do use factory loads... Why is reloading more accurate than factory loads? You would imagine that due to economies of scale etc etc factory's, even taking their time with their precision machines and fresh brass could make an accurate round? Cheers lads... I know this is a stupid question, but I couldn't find the answer on the web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Short version is factory ammo is made to work in all rifles, hand loads are tailored to suit your rifle - as they are all slightly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Makes sense... So does it follow that say I buy 2 rifles of the same make and calibre they will like the same load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 No two barrels are the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 So that's that answered! Thanks lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 When you reload your own you are able to ajust the amount of powder you use and the bullit seating depth all to fine tune to your rifle . Besides , home loading is a hobby in its self and the satisfaction of making good ammo will put a smile on your face . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 If I spend Any more time, talking about hunting, thinking about hunting or spending money on hunting my girlfriend may well get rid of me! I'm not sure another hobby is the way to go! But I take your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 You used to be able to say it was cheaper as well but that seems to becoming more difficult to justfy these days the way the price of components is going up. Rifle ammo is going the same way as shotgun ammo did. Years ago I used to reload shotgun cartriges for less than half the price of factory cartridges. Now I couldn't load them for the same price. I have just about given up loading rifle cartridges because the saving is so small it doesn't really seem worth all the effort for the amount of ammo I shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 From: Co. Aontroim, Eire Someone will confirm... but... I think "reloading" is ilegal in Ireland?? Anyway... it's fun, and teaches you how to get the best from your rifle. + it makes you irresistible to the fairer sex (stuartp & mungler take note) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 You used to be able to say it was cheaper as well but that seems to becoming more difficult to justfy these days the way the price of components is going up.Rifle ammo is going the same way as shotgun ammo did. Years ago I used to reload shotgun cartriges for less than half the price of factory cartridges. Now I couldn't load them for the same price. I have just about given up loading rifle cartridges because the saving is so small it doesn't really seem worth all the effort for the amount of ammo I shoot. I would imagine I wouldn't be loading enough to justify cost, but I probably would for accuracy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Someone will confirm... but... I think "reloading" is ilegal in Ireland?? Co. Aontroim, Eire is a little political joke. Reloading is still legal in Northern Ireland. It's actually technically not illegal in the Republic either, but is effectively banned by the refusal of the authorities to sanction the imporation of powders or primers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 as others have said reloading is a (hobby) , i have spent a fortune on reloading gear chasing single hole groups or at the very worse 1/4 inch groups but it really is a fantastic feeling when you eventually get it right. 20 federal rounds in 243 is around £40 now and i can reload for about 60p so in theory i am saving loads but in practice i shoot 4 times as many bullets now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Co. Aontroim, Eire is a little political joke. Reloading is still legal in Northern Ireland. It's actually technically not illegal in the Republic either, but is effectively banned by the refusal of the authorities to sanction the imporation of powders or primers. On the basis of maturity I'll ignore that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) as others have said reloading is a (hobby) , i have spent a fortune on reloading gear chasing single hole groups or at the very worse 1/4 inch groups but it really is a fantastic feeling when you eventually get it right. 20 federal rounds in 243 is around £40 now and i can reload for about 60p so in theory i am saving loads but in practice i shoot 4 times as many bullets now £40 a box??? You can buy PP for £10 a box and its just as accurate. Thats 50p a bang for factory loads. Have you tried it? Edited September 1, 2009 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 + it makes you irresistible to the fairer sex (stuartp & mungler take note) So a bit like Beauty and the Geek then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 So a bit like Beauty and the Geek then Careful... you might upset the bbs lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 £40 a box??? You can buy PP for £10 a box and its just as accurate. Thats 50p a bang for factory loads. Have you tried it? As we've just established that all rifles/barrels are different, that's a bit of a sweeping statement. PP is occassionally just as accurate, but generally not the case in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I agree with cushat, I bought PP at Bisley and my reloads are better by far and going by just the component prices they seem cheaper too.......double whammy IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 My reloads are vastly more accurate than the Factory Norma I was using. My main reason for reloading was more to do with supply than anything else... It seems the RFD's round here don't always carry the same brand, grain of factory ammo - so I was spending a fortune on re-zeroing just because they had run out of Remington, Norma's, whatever I had been using... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Reloading components suffer exactly the same shortages of supplies, even disappearing for months on end, so anyone considering getting into it should do their research on component availability locally before they decide on a recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 True... But after a visit to Norman Clark - I've got enough to start a small invasion, I'm unlikely to shoot over 400 foxes for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Just remember Expanding heads count towards you FAC total holding amount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 oh I don't know Gary Luton's just down the road I'm sure you could use your supply in the first half hour of your invasion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 £40 a box??? You can buy PP for £10 a box and its just as accurate. Thats 50p a bang for factory loads. Have you tried it? yes i have but only for running in the barrel, it grouped about 1 1/4 inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 It seems the RFD's round here don't always carry the same brand, grain of factory ammo - so I was spending a fortune on re-zeroing just because they had run out of Remington, Norma's, whatever I had been using... That's a valid point, same around here, you have to get it while you can. But once you have your mother load it's easy enough just to pop the powder/bullet in & away you go, knowing that every load you'll fire will be the same & should be the same zero. Makes it a lot easy, but I still zero from time to time just to make sure, BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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