pyr8 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 a mates son in law has had some bad luck this week.his buisness premises have gone up in smoke.the police thought it could have been arson so arrested him and as a shotgun owner they also wanted to confiscated his guns.they released him immediatly but took him home to pick up his guns and search his house,they found a box of cartridges on a shelf in his garage and have charged him with this offence.he is worried he will lose his licence and subsequently his guns,his last one cost over £35,000.do you think he will have to sell up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) They can't have charged him with that offence because there is no offence commited !! Also WHAT exactly is he going to sell if he has to "sell up" as you say,if the police have confiscated his guns ? Edited September 3, 2009 by Blackbart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 if that is an offence i would think 99% of sgc holders are breaking the law, i didnt think there was any requirement to securely store sg ammo mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 No requirmnet by law to keep cartridges under lock and key.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 As above, as far as i know :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky-shot Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 not locked away .......but out the of reach of children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 my thoughts entirely , i didnt think there was any restrictions . i hope not , i have them everywhere . car ,van, home, jacket in downstairs loo ect . if its a new law im bu****** :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbob Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I raised the question with my FLO when he came round and he said no legal requirement to secure ammo in a locked container, just use some common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 one for the boffins at basc me thinks :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 It'll just be beat cops who either know nothing about firearms legislation or are trying to put 'the frighteners' on your mate to see how he reacts. Nowt to worry about :blink: Unless any of the cartridges were solid slugs, then he's in bother Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 They can't have charged him with that offence because there is no offence commited !! Also WHAT exactly is he going to sell if he has to "sell up" as you say,if the police have confiscated his guns ? the police have only confiscated his guns, he is still able to sell them, he cannot have access to them but it does not stop him selling them to someone who has a valid SGC, or he could have a registered firearms dealer hold the guns for him, at a cost of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 without wishing to sound harsh-if he can afford to spend 35k+ on a gun he is comfortable enough financially to pay for legal advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 his father in law asked me out of curiosity,and it was beat bobbys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 £35,000 on a gun!!!! Does it go bang in a different way to mine?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 his father in law asked me out of curiosity,and it was beat bobbys. Beat bobby's or not i still dont see how he has been "charged" with anything ?Either there is a lot more to it than the father in law is telling you or he is getting very confused with the event's. Or the son in law is telling porkies !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 the police have only confiscated his guns, he is still able to sell them, he cannot have access to them but it does not stop him selling them to someone who has a valid SGC, or he could have a registered firearms dealer hold the guns for him, at a cost of course. Is that a fact or what you think ? I am not having a go at you but it just seems strange that you could get your guns out of police custody by selling them to your best mate for a quid !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benellimelody Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Is that a fact or what you think ? I am not having a go at you but it just seems strange that you could get your guns out of police custody by selling them to your best mate for a quid !! A lad I know lost his cert. but got the chance to sell off his guns - I think this is standard practise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 The guns are still your property even if the police seize them. Unless they are required for evidence any shooter should always try to get them out & into the hands of a pal or an rfd, as they have been known to be damaged in police custody from time to time. The principle is that it is the possession of the gun not the legal ownership which is regulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky-shot Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 £35,000 on a gun!!!! Does it go bang in a different way to mine?? no :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I suspect this is one of those occasions where nobody knows the full story. Its not clear if he has been charged with arson, if not, why do they want to confiscate his guns ? You cannot be arrested for having a box of cartridges stored in your garage. If he is genuinely concerned about losing his SGC, it has more to do with a possible arson charge, than where he stores his cartridges. As has been said already, he can still sell his guns if they are confiscated and he should consult a Solicitor as quickly as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Is that a fact or what you think ? I am not having a go at you but it just seems strange that you could get your guns out of police custody by selling them to your best mate for a quid !! it does not matter how much he sells them for, he will no longer be the legal owner, thats what matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 it does not matter how much he sells them for, he will no longer be the legal owner, thats what matters Which is the point i was making by saying "a quid" But to me the whole story seems bull and someone somewhere along the line is telling porkies.You can't have your guns taken by plod for having cartridges in your garage or charged with having cartridges in your garage as believe it or not the plod just might check to make sure it was an offence before they charged you with anything. If they arrested him on suspiscion of arson and subsequentially charged him for this then they have reason to take guns and to charge him they must have evidence to support this,so i would think the cartridges bit is bull ! I sound just like jessica fletcher....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 no he,s not been charged with arson.that was sorted out quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 so what exactly has he been charged with?? Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 so what exactly has he been charged with?? Les paying 35 grand for a gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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