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Best talking to the places you already have.

If you ignore the 30 odd percent of birds that couldn’t be determine whether they were shot with steel and consider they were ,or some such jiggery pokery then it’s possible to deduce a compliance rate of 62% unfortunately it’s been assessed at a rate of 93%. As there seems little first hand knowledge to reflect this major turnaround in compliance rate it seems unlikely. But that’s the nature of the game here zero data and questionable interpretation. It smacks of clutching at straws rather than a strong argument. Credibility being stretched methinks.

Due to my location it’s impossible here however I’m sure you or your organisation know of a steel friendly clay ground As for the pub afterwards that’s a definite no I don’t hold with alcohol and guns or driving on the same day a civilised cup of tea and cake maybe how many Basc employees would you want to field in the steel team? im pretty confident that I can find enough to match your numbers

Who’s Terry behan? perhaps you could enlighten me or point me in the direction of his workshop

It is a forum so inevitably all talk. 😀Can you substantiate your claim of no action or do you just mean no action in regard to the support of BASC policy. Ponder why that may be then act accordingly if you wish to enjoy grass roots support. By handful do you mean the vast majority of contributors on this thread who are disagreeing with the majority of your posts ? It would be so much easier for you to push through your political agenda if people just accepted your ill thought through policies but that’s not real life and you’re being forced to deal with what is a popular opposition to your views. You just have difficulty accepting that.

No consultation, no real transitional uptake. All talk

Exactly 👍 Evidence that you have failed to produce or that GWCT has figures for. Did we not go through this already with the probable , estimated etc posts earlier. There can be no acceptance when there is no conclusive evidence and there is no conclusive evidence without figures to substantiate that position. Continually repeating that false line when you have already conceded it is false is baffling.

common misconception made their. when it first showed up on the battle field the T-34 outclassed anything the Germans had, it was the driving force behind the rushed development of the panther. When the germans first launched the invasion of russia, germany had the bigger army. The mass horde attacks all along the front are a bit of propaganda. im sure desperate things happened in desperate times but the russian army gets potrayed as borderline zombies and it just wasn't the case. by the time they roled into Berlin in 45 the equipment and quality of the Russian army as a whole was pretty impressive. same as now they seem to be plagued by corruption,communication and leadership issues.

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Nope, one of the handful suggested a poll and will probably not follow through. Like everything in these threads - all talk and no action. Happy to agree to disagree. I see no conspiracies. No opinions are being forced - its voluntary. As for 'put to the test' there has been 4 years of consultation and success with the transition so far.

I think youre missing the point, whether the 'evidence' is conclusive or not, is irrelevant. We could say that burning fossil fuels is conclusive evidence that global temperatures are rising (slightly) So we need to move away from using fossil fuels, or they will be banned ? We could say that these tiny temperature rises make bad weather more prevalent, but does it ? We could say that western governments dont like private firearms ownership, so they will seek to remove those rights over the course of time, but I digress. No one doubts lead is a toxic to life element, yet there is very little evidence that it causes detrimental effects in normal usage, otherwise every single lead risk would have to be removed from the environment. Lead exists in nature, its in our soil, our water and air, but the emphasis appears to be on ammunition use, because that kills 2 birds with one stone, it restricts those private firearms users from using the best tool for the job, while saving a few birds that no one actually cares about really. If they had threatened police and military with a lead ban, something easily achievable as they control it , then I would be more amenable to the 'reason' But the main point is this , if you believe that upending shooting sports in this country is a worthwhile price to pay for a few birds poisoned (despite the fact we shoot or wound a massive amount already) or 'a healthy market for game meat' then thats your right to opinion, mine differs somewhat. What I dont agree with , is the minority opinion being forced on the vast majority, which again, you never put to the test.

Dare I suggest that if you found it very enlightening then your knowledge isn’t as great as you would have us believe. Sorry I thought you wrote earlier of your interest in a poll on the forum to assess your support I must have misremembered ,in hindsight it doesn’t seem a likely scenario. Is that not what is going on here I don’t think we are echoing each other’s positions unless you are belatedly acknowledging an agreement with my views. But the context of the statement was the futility in advertising your work promoting shooting on a shooting site I take it that you failed to grasp that.

That sounds like good day out and informative for all - when you have a venue and dates let me know. We could put the world to rights in the pub afterwards and be nice to put some faces to usernames. Is that not what is going on here?

I’m ahead of you there Old farrier. I have had my Miroku Teague choked and high power steel proofed and have a wide range of chokes from cylinder to full . Thankfully I can afford it ,many can’t. However there are bucket loads of older side by sides being sold for pennies now so there is the opportunity to buy and then later discard should that become necessary at not much cost. See Holts sealed bids. I’ve two guns going in there in the next auction.

That I would imagine is the frequency then bud. This is on the bottom of a RC car that takes 4 AA batteries..

You would be best talking to Terry Behan. It will really help you. I think its a fantastic listen, very enlightening. I don't insist anything. Its my opinion. I have no plans for any question on the form.

Well I spent a lot of money and time getting my gun bored and regulated to throw the appropriate patterns for my own type of shooting I have asked repeatedly over the years for some advice and information on what to have them rebored to to get the same pattern no one can give me the information so what is the answer? has anyone achieved a cylinder pattern? Or a 1/4 choke what cartridge do I have to use in non lead bio wad that’s not going to be obsolete in a year the answer to this isn’t ask a gunsmith or ask the cartridge manufacturer of have multi chokes and experiment please note I’m not the only person who will have to foot the bill for all the choke altering regulating not to mention the cartridges and time pattern testing

Have you not seen the adverts for the new upcoming programme on the tellybox ? It's on channel XYZ and called "GRAVY WARS !" 🥳😁😂

I have listened and honestly considered it a complete waste of time. Your insistence that it is worthy of praise is surprising. Is this due to low standards, an echo chamber effect, non critical listening or just politically expedient in nature, it’s hard to determine. That’s the problem when you are trying too hard to appeal to listeners rather than basing your content on factual informative comment aimed at a critical knowledgable audience. Sorry Conor but nul points from me. Maybe start singing from a different song sheet if you aspire to a more positive review. Have you decided yet on the form your question should take on the PW forum to measure your level of support yet ?

Not too much for two then if she can pull that off.

What gets me is, all these so called experts seem to-be clueless on the decline of any wildlife and come out with things like….’we are not sure why xyz are in decline but loss of habitat and global warming maybe a factor’ ….ask someone who sees what's happening might help.

I think it was about accepting there was conclusive evidence on the impact of lead shot on birds - if you can't admit the problem it makes a solution less likely - we were all in denial up to that point - some still are! Maybe listen to the podcast on how patterning one's gun makes the difference. Maybe listen to the podcast - this is all covered.

Aah! My wife would have stretched it even further by boiling the carcass and stripping any remaining bits of flesh off it, then using the flesh and some of the stock to make a chicken and vegetable curry for another day and the rest of the stock to make Chinese chicken, vegetable and noodle soup.

Is there a name to this razor?

There's only two of us, we buy a 1.5 kilo chicken (Lidl) that does us for 3 days, first day full roast dinner, veg, stuffing balls and proper gravy, not to thick, not to thin, day 2, chicken chips stuffing balls and peas (with gravy) day 3, make sandwiches with what's left and served with a few chip, couple of stuffing balls each and pickled Spanish onion, never any waste.