Gordon R

You may think a pump action is the answer, but they are difficult to use properly. I have only ever seen one person who could shoot clays with one and he was a World Champion. For the price of the two pumps you cite, you could get a decent over and under. Cost of shooting 50 clays per week would be about £20 - for clays and shells.

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Get a Suzuki SX4. About half the price and just as good - or SZ5 - better. A mate has a Nissan Qashqai and managed to break the little piece of plastic on the hatch - the one that holds the numberplate lights. Not that hard to fit, but £156 in bare plastic - needed spraying. Rear shockers are troublesome - it's the bushes, rather than the actual shock. Qashqais hold their price and they have sold a lot of them. Just not sure why - I suspect good advertising.

You won't be able to insure a Freelander or the others. You need a reality check.

Phil - I appreciate he shoots pigeons, but he also shoots clays. He uses maintained lead for all clays, which I believe is flawed. I was making the point that he needed to adapt to whatever he was shooting. Perhaps I could have made the point clearer - cheers.

You need a mixture of all styles. Maintained lead is fine - but what about rising targets, where the clay is beneath the barrels - using the maintained lead method. Maintained lead is not brilliant with battues.

I am not sure of how much overboring affects performance. What I have found is that overbored guns leave more residue in the barrel - just in front of the chambers. I have owned at least three where this was noticeable.

Go along - have a shoot and ask for advice. Shooters are about the most helpful bunch you will find.

Frenchieboy - I saw the Britannia Coconutters many times as a kid, growing up in the Rossendale Valley. I didn't realise you lived in Bacup. Did you ever shoot at the Deerplay - just a couple of miles up Burnley Road on the right, next to the pub?

A fine post - Mr Potter.

UK Poacher - I appreciate we deport a few, but they are a drop in the ocean. Best guess for "illegals" - 5 million. I challenge anyone to dispute the figure - you can't. I can't prove it either, but am reliably informed. Deporting to China is like plaiting sawdust - it can be done, but very, very difficult. I have no time for racism, but I do object to illegals - their first act in the country is breaking the law. Sadly, quite a few go on to commit further offences - some very serious. The prison population percentage of illegals is disproportionate to their alleged numbers.

I've almost booked there a few times, but ended up in St Ives - I love the place. I will get there one day. :yes:

I would buy a cheapy and get local metalworks / fabricators to slice the back off and reposition to your required depth. It wouldn't take them many minutes.

It would be quicker to phone him, as he is not online.

Try this one:- http://www.luckyardfarm.com/

On most guns:- 1 notch = Full 2 " = 3/4 or Improved Modified 3 " = 1/2 or Modified 4 " = 1/4 or Improved Cylinder

I will have it - you have PM. I have now bought the pad.

That isn't far from the actual truth.

rover - you are entitled to your view - I feel the same about you. I worry about people saying they would hit Policemen. I presume it doesn't bother you. Perhaps it is a sincere view that you respect. For the record - I don't. I detest racism. Feel free to sit on the sidelines and snipe.

Blaser F3 - Mike - I had forgotten that little gem about Sebastien Coe. :) PS - just bought a Blaser.

mushroom - any chance of a reply to the question I asked? I know it must be difficult - trolling and thinking - but have a go. Be a pal. :lol: I trust you don't have a shotgun or firearm certificate, because your anti-police posts and confrontational attitude would place them in jeopardy. :yes:

Coe has no answer to the question whatsoever. Whatever credibility he had - debatable - he has absolutely none now. I met him in the early 1990s at the opening of Saab Manchester - seemed a lad of principle. This is just how far he has sunk.

He has the spine of a jellyfish when it comes to representing shooting.

Cat - agree about doing little for us. Sebastien Coe has a lot to answer for. Hypocrite.

It wouldn't surprise me. Behind you !!!! Behind you !!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: