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Absolutely idiotic behaviour, but I feel for all of them, I don't believe any prison sentence could ever match the guilt that guy will feel for the rest of his life, if the family of the deceased can find it in their hearts to forgive him, I don't think its for anyone else to punish him.

I don't think the death of democracy in the UK is anything to laugh about, particularly when so many died in foreign lands fighting for it. I still believe ultimately the politicians responsible for this will pay for their treacherous behaviour towards the people they are meant to represent in future elections, my only sencere hope is that the far right doesn't rise from this, as has been shown in history, when the people have been trodden on enough, the far right will rise.

Absaloutly spot on, he really is a vile self serving creature!

Yeah I thought of that to but didn't want to start another brexit debate on a separate thread, but I agree. Your probably right to an extent, although I think Macron is a particularly divisive individual.

Main stream media are likely portraying them as making unreasonable demands and being either extreme left or right, in reality I think there's a lot of ordinary folk on the street who are sick of Macron and sick of being ripped off.

I agree with this, the DUP have been clear from day one that they wouldn't accept being treated differently to the rest of the UK, its the EU, Theresa May and other remoaner MPs who have caused the issue and they alone hold the blame for the situation the country is now in.

And now we get to the heart of the problem, the country has spoken loud and clear it wants to leave, but the majority of politicians in power don't want us to, so they refuse to action the referendum result. I think his time can be better spent on getting us out than walking the entire 200 miles, it's nothing more than remoaner spin!

I can answer it for you, we voted to leave the EU, which means to leave its membership and all its core rules. The only way of doing that would be via a new free trade deal I.e one that doesn't need to adhear to its core rules like free movement of people, which the EU has always said is impossible, or via a hard brexit, that's it, it really is that simple, the only confusion is being caused by people trying to overturn the vote!

So what exactly did we vote to leave? If the EU won't be reasonable and we cant secure a free trade deal, and by that I mean a deal in the same way the rest of the world trades, then a wto brexit is exactly what we voted for, it really is as simple as that, it's just being clouded by remains who are trying to overturn our largest democratic vote in history.

I'm not talking about whether brexit will damage the country economicly or not, I'm talking about ignoring the result of the largest democratic vote this country has ever held and the fact the government lied when it said it would enact the result whatever outcome that was voted for?

But its too late, the referendum was held, leave won and they need to action it, but they won't, can't you see it makes a mockery of our supposed democratic country, which is the very fibre our the UK is supposedly made of. We had the biggest vote in history and were lied to by the prime minister and government, put aside for a moment that I believe brexit would be great for the country and you believe it would be catastrophic, just how are they going to square that circle?

So tell me, what was the point of the referendum if the result is going to be ignored as appears to be the case?

Spot on, it's already been looked at and we don't owe them a penny legally or morally, so the EU would winge and the rest of the world would ignore them as they go down the plug hole without the uks money.

There's some bunch in the labour party at the moment.

Never a truer word spoken! Very good 😂👍

Fiona Onasanya was one of the 4 majority who voted to block a no deal brexit, how she can be allowed to vote after being jailed for perverting the course of justice is beyond me but it sums it up really, parliament really is corrupt!

Me to just remember it at the next general election!

Fingers crossed

I can't believe these idiots are running our country.

Well it appears Parliament has just stuck another nail in the brexit coffin, they have voted to rule out no deal under any circumstances with a majority of 4 MPs.

So what was the point of the referendum with only two options then?

Blackstone are you Granett by any chance?

Its not about being afraid of a second vote, I've no doubt in my mind another referendum with leave or remain on the ballot would result in an even bigger leave result, but they simply can't have another referendum on the same issue without enacting the first, it would be completely undemocratic and would make a mockary of the values our political system is based on.

I don't think the EU have played a blinder, it's UK MPs who refuse to enact the referendum result who are scuppering the uks ability to negotiate a decent deal or make a clean break, simple as that.

Your second paragraph is true, but it's too late, the vote was held. As for your first paragraph, it's nonsense, it was made crystal clear, the country voted to leave its EU membership, that means leaving the EU and the core rules being an EU member entails, I can't see what your struggling to grasp about that.