Dave at kelton

Peter Dyson, or Brownells.

At last…somebody with a sense of humour!😂

There are also a number of non toxic loading forums that are a good source of loading data and materials. You have to remember that, from a pure liability point of view, people are loathe to share data. That is why you need to use manufacturers or suppliers data like Claygame. I once obtained data from a well known writer for Shooting Times. The loads didn’t feel right so I sent a batch to the proof house. I was suitably admonished and politely told not to be so silly in future. The pressures developed in their words were “suitable only as a proof load” and should under no circumstances be used! They may well feel let down but don’t need to keep telling us at every available opportunity. Surely the point has been made and constant repetition doesn’t make it any stronger; it is just boring!

Yes fibre shot ups are the answer in 12 bore and larger. I Use them in 12, 10, and 8 although the latter use ITM and they are fine if you have a good obturator wad under them. They are though too bulky in smaller bores which is why we need development in these bores before any transition from lead.

You wouldn’t be loading steel with fibre anyway. Will stay that way until we get a suitable eco wad for home loads in any bore. The only small bore non toxic loading I am doing is tss in the 28 bore and those wouldn’t be wasted on low partridges. I have sourced all components despite all the gloom and doom. Speaking to a pal this morning he had used tss in his 28 on high pheasant with good effect but I hate to think of the cost. Realistically most of the people I know are only loading for big bore or wildfowling loads in any event and Chris is on the wildfowling team.

The star is the choke mark and it is full and full on my understanding, unless they have been bored out and only a gunsmith will tell you that. Where you go from here is a matter for you. I would certainly have it checked and if still full ….. it’s up to you what you put through it in the knowledge that the recommendation is max half for steel.

Sorry but I disagree. I have used bismuth when shooting ducks and will simply be using it on all days for all quarry. I don’t fire many shots on a muzzle loading day so cost isn’t an issue.

No accounting for stupidity!

Personally I would pick up some good quality vintage hardwood rods and just add modern brushes, Payne Galway type and standard phosphor bronze in the appropriate bore. I don’t bother with mops and buy my patches as a roll off the bay. Add your chosen cleaner and oil and that’s all you need.

Too Beige! 😂😂

Another programme for me to boycott just like Countryfile.

Contact my pal Graham at https://www.beechgrovetrees.com/

Yep, Blenheim.

Sorry to be stupid but what cartridges does this take, gauge and length? thanks

Whilst the appalling weather up here in Scotland has rightly grabbed the headlines it’s not been all bad. Today picking up partridges on the hill was a case in point with fabulous autumn colours.

Trailfinders

Used to Nick the best wood off other bonfires so you had to have guards out running up to the fifth. 😂😂

You drop your dinner in the Solway mud?

I am struggling to find some so look forward to seeing the answers. I am currently on a pair of pvc from Decathlon as they are out of neoprene, and they are very good but how long they will last I don’t know.

On the wildfowling front I have used 3” hp steel in a 3.5” chamber without ill effect. I have also not heard of any of my pals who use these or shorter cartridges seeing any damage around the chamber. Practically, if the wad does it’s job and protects the barrels from the shot column I find it difficult to see why damage should arise. in Canada when shooting the snow geese the benellis fire thousands of 3” cases each season without damage but I look forward to hearing the experience of others.

I wouldn’t go near tss it’s far too hard for our barrels. I have been playing with some loads for a modern 28 bore using plastic wads plus a .410 case inside that to avoid barrel damage. Yet to use them in anger. Components are a problem but if you do a bit of digging you can get what you need. I have a stock of bismuth although older shot so probably not as good as the current stuff which is less prone to shattering.

Yep it’s going to make life difficult for us! Guessing we will have to go over to bismuth mores the pity.

Me too and if it is really cold you can slip a “hothands” bag into the back of each one and they will last all day. Or at worst wear a pair of thin gloves under . I have a pair I bought over twenty five years ago. They double up in the summer when fishing as hand guards stopping the backs of my hands from burning

Near Glencaple, a mile from the Nith Hotel

Thanks worth knowing.