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Only a smear of headgecutter gearbox grease on the barrel pivot and anywhere of high load. That grease spec is way higher than needed. Tetra is good.

The thing being is that I've got a big store cupboard of trouble. I've been told that I've got to many troubles BUT I'd still like to add troubles like this one. The FEO might not be so happy though. Worse thing is that friends of mine have cabinets full and either no one to give them to or No one that is interested. Now that's really is sad.

Jeez, that's a LOT of reading. BUT there's good stuff in there. I knocked up about a litre of ed's red and I'll probably still be using it in 5 years. That stuff solves everything and lubricates. I don't mind being tight fisted when it means more shooting. I don't mind being tight fisted anyway.

As above unless you want every nutter anti ringing it at 3am every night. The picture of the stock is quite blurred. Lovely gun. I own a 325 g5. Good luck with the sale.

Again over 200 miles away up North. Shame, again.

Why is it always 200 + miles away up North or somewhere.

Wouldn't be surprised. They must have all been getting a substantial bung. All of the previous pm's fought tooth And nail against BREXIT. The will of the MAJORITY. years ago they would have been hung, drawn and quartered as TRAITORS. AND that gina miller and the hollering twerp outside of parliament. ... boiled alive in Trafalgar square. Still that obnoxious jumped up nit bercow hasn't been given a knighthood seat. Add him to the stewpot as well.

Unlikely because Russia is the worlds second largest exporter of arms. France has only got a couple of lightly used rifles which have been dropped a couple of times by comparison Russia exports to over 45 countries. Russia uses conflict zones such as Syria to showcase its military equipment to other potential buyers. they couldn't give a monkeys about the human cost. You've only got to look at the death toll or Russian forces in WW2. People like Putin only recognise a severe beating to make them stop doing bad things.. Still he can just sit there being a threat. It ain't costing him any losses of men or materials. YET. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+countries+does+russia+export+arms+to&client=tablet-android-samsung&ei=qh8IYs37Ho32gAbN2ZmoDQ&oq=how+many+countries+does+Russia++export+arms+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEEcQsAM6BggAEAcQHjoICAAQCBAHEB46CwgAELEDEIMBEJECOgUIABCRAjoHCAAQsQMQQzoECAAQQzoICAAQBxAKEB46BAgAEB46CggAEAgQBxAKEB46BggAEAgQHjoECB4QCjoICCEQFhAdEB5KBAhBGABQ0ShYkb0DYPnUA2gBcAF4AIAB1ByIAapmkgEUNS4yNy41LjEuMS4xLjEuMC4xLjGYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Russia

They're not a bad gun. Theyre solid as you would expect from a Baikal and if you put the lead on target, it will take the target just the same as anything.

The man that I was apprenticed under was full of old country lore sayings and what you have written is the nearest to one that he used to say. His saying was, "near burgh, far........ far burgh, near". This cou try ssying was a noted effect of weather conditions. Basically what is happening is the light reflected by the moon is refracted through either ice crystals or water droplets in the atmosphere. It's a similar effect to red sky at night shepherds delight. It's just light being refracted through something in the atmosphere that was linked to the following days weather.

What does a cultured yardie speak like.? What is one of these .??

KB maybe. That other thing, BR Naah,: That is a hatchet faced monstrosity. It's just got that bad tempered look about it. Shame.

I can't understand how Borris hasn't wheeled the BBC director in and A marked his card AND made a direct statement that the TV licence is to be scrapped NOW. B Any conservative mp's criticising the party are to have the whip withdrawn until they get back in line. They've stalled that obnoxious bercow from any knighthood or public platform . Then some of these leaches might fear their jobs it might concentrate their minds of being a traitor.

Both him and Blair = traitors. note the BBC hounds there in the gutter hanging on his every word. As for stockings, suspenders and preferring a knee trembler......... good ole boy. But tottaly of no consequence. If he is still in the Conservative party he should be wheeled in and booted out. Black balled out.

And Suddenly we have all accepted the need for doctors certs. This was just another hoop to jump through for no good reason. Every time I go to the doctor, that doctor could be one of many in the practice that have never seen me, knows nothing about me other than any prescriptions that I might be currently on. Unless I am a raving nutter they won't have a clue about whether I am going to snap about the price of chocolate biscuits and go down and strafe up my local Tesco. Plod has known all about the nutters that have gone on the rampage and have never done anything about it at all. We had a member of the public who came to our club and was a person you wouldn't give a catapult to. The club spoke to plod about how the club was VERY concerned about this persons suitability. Said person went to another club to try to get membership and that club also contacted plod about this blokes suitability. What happened.? plod issued matey with a SGC and An FAC.!!! work that one out. one day he'll be on the evening news. Pound to a pinch of residue. 100%. How can the police be in charge of issuing firearms certificates.? There must a conflict of interest here. Surely this should be down to an independent body without an agenda . and where are the lame shooting orgs ?? other than saying that they're doing their best. still I suppose that they can't spend the money on a court case because they might have to forgo their new range rover's.

I can't get my head around the way 270s have always been written about. How they are meat destroyers./. how they are like 20 mm cannons, ect ,ect any centre fire will wake up the neighbours if a can is not used but so what. Let em know that you're out there. Why should we hide and sneak around like criminal poachers. Loads... some years ago in the basc mag they published a load of H4895 driving a Speer 130. now this was a light load designed to give the required muzzle energy but it was like shooting a 20 bore. they had a Parker Hale in 270 win that was available for stalking in their forestry areas. this load would take deer cleanly. if you reload you can load lightly. you don't have to drive your Porsche flat out everywhere and you don't have to load the 270 up until the recoil hurts. That light load was blooming good on Charlie. Perhaps someone can remember that loading.

I apologise for my spelling /typing error you are correct that the Bridgwater in Somerset England has no "E" in the name. BUT the gun has the name without the "E" and England stamped on top of the barrel along with British proof marks. Although IF it had been made in the US it would have still had British proof marks as an import from the US.

That would be of interest and expand the story of this gun etc. let's hope that you can find it.

Generally this would be discarded as an old junker. The general appearance and the odd action straight back toggle pull to break the action ,cock the hammer and engage the safety is a bit odd in its look and operation but it works well. I wonder if it failed because although it is a work of function and precision the market for a gun for the keeper or smallholder with limited want to shoot was very small even then surely. As soon as foreign imports like the cosmos and other AyA types like the yeoman came along it must have severely diminished it's sales down to a bargain bucket shopping catalog. As this goes back into at least the 60's no one went out shooting stuff just because it was there back in those days. Not many people had fridges let alone freezers and you only shot for the immediate use or like in my father and grandfathers time for local sale to the village butcher or to local householders who would have a rabbit or two a week. This made the old boys a bit of cash for whatever. My father had a double 12 hammer with barrels that were so pitted that if not totally unsafe were pretty close to it. Grandfather had a hammer under lever back action 16. The muzzle of the Damascus barrel was so thin that you could have used it to cut out wads with. no one would consider shooting with a gun like those nowadays for fear on injuring any bystanders but they didn't even consider that back then. But by all accounts they went out every weekend and came home with enough rabbits, pigeons and assorted game that they had to cut down carry poles to get the stuff back home. Most of this found its way to the local butcher and the route of customers that they had generated. Times were hard and money short every penny counted. One time father shot a duck which landed in a field over the river. The dog just wouldn't go on the river ice to retrieve the duck. Father was determined not to let this go to Charley so he stripped off and waded chest deep across the river breaking through the river ice himself. He retrieved the duck and grandfather gave him his large scarf to dry off a bit with. Grandfather loaded most of the game onto father to make him work up his body heat on the trek back home . Everyone who heard about this called father a bloody lunatic but that was just how it was. How many on here started off with a single barrel 410 or 12 bore and saved up for something better when time went bye. Nowadays all you hear about is how side by sides kick like mules and if you haven't got a 30+ inch multi choke single trigger gun then you can't shoot anything, 42 gram 4s and the like!. Dealers won't take stuff like this in even in part exchange. Shooting has become a fashion sport rather than a practical need. still I don't suppose the pigeons will notice the difference between being shot with any gun. I look forward to the summer and having an evening mooch with this beast, that's if some do gooder doesn't call out the plod ect. A picture of the unusual gun opening, cocking and safety toggle like lever. It's just a straight pull all the way back for all three functions. As I've progressed with this gun I don't think that it has every fired a lot of cartridges. there is no real sign of wear anywhere. It just looks like it has been laid up and semi forgotten about. What I thought was surface rust now appears to be more like oil that has accumulated a gunk layer of mud/dust / whatever. It is mostly a coating of residue. I will brush meths on the barrel to wash /disolve what will move and see what it is like. And it was made in England. A piece of our industrial heritage. Designed to do a job and passed by time. probably over at least 60 years old.

What's the bore like on the one that you've got ? The barrel on mine is mirror inside but a bit surface rusty on the outside. As I am treating this gun as a curio/project I will hone the outside with wet and dry to a fine finish and then replace. The gun will never have any value but it is what it is and it's sort of out of respect for forgotten British engineering and the way that things are going. This gun is the most unlikely thing that I would take out shooting with considering the guns that I do have. If nothing else the pictures of the action will be out there as a record of how this action is assembleď ect. Kind of like a Haynes manual.

I know it looks die cast but it is an alloy casting. I've stripped out the action tonight and overall I'm pretty impressed by the way a lot of thought and accuracy has been put into this thing. I've taken a lot of pictures of the action ect but they are nearly 14 meg per picture so I will have to resized them so that they add. .. A few.. OK not a Purdy but it is a forgotten weapon and there must have been a lot of time ect used to actually get this out there. I'll clean it up, lube it and give it a few clays to see how it performs. From a different age when it was just keep the rabbits back off of the garden, knock over a fox taking the chickens or for just having an evening mooch. The time when you just bought one box of cartridges... per the odd years. where it might have been carried a lot but not shot and where it stood in a corner for most of the time. When you see the action all assembled it has been made absolutely accurately right such as the safety detent spring which sits on the top in a little cut out section with one leg under the block on each side and the the rest of the leg over onto of the small roll pin in the safety lever. it is all there accurate manufacture and fit to do a job. I bet that there were a lot of depressed people who made / designed this when it all went west. probably the same as when car companies and lots of other British companies capsized and the staff were made redundant.

MassachusettsIt's....?? not April fools day yet is it.? The info on the net from American posters about 270's and 30.06 models mention about the guns being sold by an outfit called penny's or something similar. That was just a guess at the name. I'd have to go ont tinter web to check that one out. Anyway this outfit was some sort of mail order outfit a bit like Kays or empire stores ect. Whatever the occasion they must have put a lot of time and effort into making and marketing the stuff to be able to offer them to the general public though mediums such as these. even though the gun is a bit of an oddball junker.

It would be interesting if there was any info on this company. What sort of company was it? Sort of Fred up his garden shed or a big works with lots of staff. When was it in operation, ect,ect. Its about like someone coming up with an airliner that was made in Tunbridge wells or somewhere and no one has any knowledge of it at all. After a bit of a socket trying the stock bolt turned out to be 1/4 whit

Thanks for the replies. Personally I've never heard or seem anything of the company or their products. The guy from holts said that they were quite common in the auctions. I have only got this beast because it was lumped together with another gun. At first I thought that it was just a junker but (and it is). BUT. when I looked at it a bit more I thought that here is a piece of hidden British engineering. No different to the old steam traction engines, old grey ferry tractors and everything else that we have just scrapped and are now are worth a fortune. EG WW2 stuff. Even totally random stuff like old ww2 army field kitchens and utensils command a big fortune nowadays. ( to those who collect this sort of thing). I looked at this gun and someone put a great deal of thought and energy into designing and manufacturing it along with other guns that they sold, ( overseas). What gets me is that the company and it's products have disappeared from anyones memory. I can understand that the market for single barrels probably fell off the screen as people became more affluent. Just as an exploration of the beast I removed the stock and it is a good piece of wood well fitted to the action. I cleaned the bore and it is like a chrome mirror. later I will drift out the pin that appears to hold the bottom plate action and see what's inside.( taking pictures as I go ). I did find on Google / Wikipedia that there was a Royal Ordinance Factory based in Bridgwater that was manufacturing explosives and wondered if this was a thing that blokes involved in the plant started this up as an external comercial business. AS MUCH AS THAT.. when you could get stuff off of catalogues . Yes it has the knurled top (lever /// knob) sort of thing. A bit of an oddity. At the end of the day it might have been a basement bargain job but if you pointed it in the right direction and put the lead on target then it would do a job. I'm quite looking forward to seeing what's inside the beast. Ps.. I wonder if anyone who lives down near Bridgewater has any knowledge of the company.

Thanks for reply but if you re read my post, I've done all of that and there isn't much if anything, that's why I am asking on here.