kiteman0 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 hi guys, just wondering who signed your sg application for you and the photo id? filled in my paperwork just need it signing now. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattslaptop247 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 First time round my solicitor did it, this last time my neighbor did it, she's a teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXPhil Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I sit on a School Governors Board and the Head Teacher was more than willing to do it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) All that is required is the person has a recognised and traceable standing within the law. That includes publicans - so if you have a friendly publican, as long as he is the Licencee, he can sign because he has proven who he is in a court of law when he was granted his Licence. Same applies to passports, he can sign them too. Edited October 1, 2009 by covlocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slated Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 i had a nurse do mine nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I had a Vet and a dentist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 A neighbour who is a local government officer signed mine but anyone of any "standing" within the community can sign. The police realise we do not all know JPs, MPs and the like and will accept most people who have some sort acceptable profession. My FEO told my son that his boss (who runs his own small business) would be OK for his FAC. Basically, anyone on any sort of publicly available register would be acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteman0 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 thanks for the info. ive got a friend who has a sgc and a fac, i was thinking about asking him seeing that he allready has the certificates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendersons Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 got my g.p. to sign mine but i had to pay the robbing scum bag nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badshot Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Didn't think you were allowed to pay people to sign them any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 got my g.p. to sign mine but i had to pay the robbing scum bagnick Didn't think you were allowed to pay people to sign them any more Don't expect your GP to sign it unless you pay him, after all its not part of his core work is it. There are exceptions, my friends for example, but I would not sign a patients application unless I got paid. I use the money to pay my insurance, just in case I have misjudged them and there victims’ families decide to sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can an FAC holder sign a SGC application for someone, as it states " a person of good character" which obviously you need to be to obtain an FAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 got another SGC holder to sign mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 same here but it was for my firearms where the requirement is just to have known you for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I signed one off for a friend of mine and he has his cert now. I just put Proprietor in the occupation box. The FAO called me and asked how long i had known him and if i felt he was a sensible person. Maybe I should have charged him. hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniwizard Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 seem like anyone can sign it with a checkable background,i got my girl freinds father to sign for mine,and my renewal,he's in his 80's and just an ordinary guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badshot Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Alexr Wasn't suggesting that you shouldn't get paid for doing it in your professional capacity, just seem to remember that when the paperwork came for mine it stated that the countersignature/s should not be done by someone you have paid to do it. Probably a bit blurred by time now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Bad shot you may well be right, and there was no venom intended in what I said, though being called a 'robbing scum bag' does seem a little harsh, and in reality i was just pointing out that there is a risk associated with signing these things ( Hungerford, Dumblain ) As I say I use the fee to pay for insurance against this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Always makes me laugh when people ask there GP to sign it . Isnt the signatory supposed to be some one who has known you personally . My gp may know about my internal organs being knackered but he knows nowt about my attitude towards guns or my ex wife or the fact that i may wish to use one against her or any other matter about my life . So in signing his name he could be taking a big risk . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Bad shot you may well be right, and there was no venom intended in what I said, though being called a 'robbing scum bag' does seem a little harsh, and in reality i was just pointing out that there is a risk associated with signing these things ( Hungerford, Dumblain ) As I say I use the fee to pay for insurance against this. Technically you are not allow to use a countersignature from someone who you have paid for the service. A great many GP's nowadays have large patient lists unlike years ago when a great many patients that visited the surgery they knew very well. My GP signed all my tickets for years, but when he retired his replacement refused on the basis of ethics of shooting and the fact he did'nt know me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 i was just pointing out that there is a risk associated with signing these things ( Hungerford, Dumblain ) As I say I use the fee to pay for insurance against this. Did the guys who countersigned michael ryan and thomas hamiltons certificates get prosecuted and require some form of insurance to pay out any damages awarded against them? I have countersigned plenty of certificates with no phone call from the firearms dept. I have also had friends (non certificate holders) countersign certificates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badshot Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Bad shot you may well be right, and there was no venom intended in what I said, though being called a 'robbing scum bag' does seem a little harsh, and in reality i was just pointing out that there is a risk associated with signing these things ( Hungerford, Dumblain ) As I say I use the fee to pay for insurance against this. Harsh indeed, and I will say it seems most sensible to use the fee for liability insurance. I don't think I would be comfortable signing for someone who probably only comes in once a year or so with a cold or bad back. Out of interest have you ever refused to sign for anybody? I know a few people local to me who have had their guns taken because the doctor felt they were not stable enough to be in possession of them. Makes me think that it is not quite as faceless a task as it may appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendersons Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 alexr didn't mean any offence to g.ps' in general it just happens that the one who signed mine has known me for years socially and came round for dinner when he signed them I didn't get charged until i had an appointment the week after and not once before this point did he mention i would have to pay.So as such i feel justified in calling him a robbing scum bag. nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 my manager at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Did the guys who countersigned michael ryan and thomas hamiltons certificates get prosecuted and require some form of insurance to pay out any damages awarded against them? I have countersigned plenty of certificates with no phone call from the firearms dept. I have also had friends (non certificate holders) countersign certificates the answer here is I dont know, but if his GP had signed the form, there is every possibility that he would have been liable. Also The only time I have had any contact with an FAO about this has been at my request ( see below) Harsh indeed, and I will say it seems most sensible to use the fee for liability insurance. I don't think I would be comfortable signing for someone who probably only comes in once a year or so with a cold or bad back. Out of interest have you ever refused to sign for anybody? I know a few people local to me who have had their guns taken because the doctor felt they were not stable enough to be in possession of them. Makes me think that it is not quite as faceless a task as it may appear. Yes, and yes they were as mad as a box of frogs, both before and after I refussed. They had also lied on the aplication, which I had to inform the FAO. alexr didn't mean any offence to g.ps' in general it just happens that the one who signed mine has known me for years socially and came round for dinner when he signed them I didn't get charged until i had an appointment the week after and not once before this point did he mention i would have to pay.So as such i feel justified in calling him a robbing scum bag.nick If you know him socially then yes I agree he did have a cheek charging you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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