proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Am in need of some ideas to help me sort to problem this years cubs out . They are a pain iand i cant get any where near them as soon as the lamp is on there off back to the safty of the cover and this is where they are doing the worst they seem to be living in said cover which is 1 of our main drves and the birds are now very skitty which is not good for this time of the season . Ihave seen them now some 8 times in the same place each time i have come in to the field from other angles have set snares near as i can to the cover and in the nearby wood even sat out for them . I need help as this is our big drive which we deppend on near to end of the season ! Any help would be great Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Snare them or call someone out who has NV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bait them with a couple of rabbits every night for a while, then,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bait them with a couple of rabbits every night for a while, then,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max29july Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 you could even try leaving them alone i have a few acres and find the foxes do me a favour they keep plenty of vermin at bay far outways any loss i have from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 you could even try leaving them alone i have a few acres and find the foxes do me a favour they keep plenty of vermin at bay far outways any loss i have from them not even an option for anyone rearing birds of any kind. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky-shot Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bait them with a couple of rabbits every night for a while, then,,,,,, that is the best way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 think I've heard it all now. leave them alone in a game crop back on subject though for starters try different filters on the lamp and be ready and you almost have to take any shot possible. My first shot with my .223 was on a going away fox heading away from a partridge release pen it had just visited. One texas heart shot later and it won't do it again, not ideal but sometimes you have to just do it. The other option is to have a trusted beater with an auto sitting at the front of the cover when you drive it and if they come out job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 early mornings around the pen , night vision, bait but only bait with end trails early afternoon, no good feeding foxes that only reach the food at 6am, do it so they come earlier and earlier until there out on the bait in late eve, if they find whole rabbits they will be happy, regularly finding guts and bits will make em check it out earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Am in need of some ideas to help me sort to problem this years cubs out . They are a pain iand i cant get any where near them as soon as the lamp is on there off back to the safty of the cover and this is where they are doing the worst they seem to be living in said cover which is 1 of our main drves and the birds are now very skitty which is not good for this time of the season . Ihave seen them now some 8 times in the same place each time i have come in to the field from other angles have set snares near as i can to the cover and in the nearby wood even sat out for them . I need help as this is our big drive which we deppend on near to end of the season ! Any help would be great Thanks Tom Do a drive and shoot them, walking guns and standing guns. The disturbance to the birds will be minimal compared to being disturbed when feeding dusting etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have tryed baiting with no joy have used nv but they seem to no im there clever little ******* ( or maybe lost my stealth) as for leaving them alone i cant risk it like i say its a big drive with well over 3000 put in to it be more than my jobs worth to leave alone . the guns on a shoot day will not shoot them if they come out as most are hunting men . The problem with taking any shot possible is back drop . its a hard one but keep the ideas coming all are good to keep me thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Do a drive and shoot them, walking guns and standing guns. The disturbance to the birds will be minimal compared to being disturbed when feeding dusting etc. Like i say its to big of a drive to do it just for the foxs plus the boss would not be impressed Well going for a shine in a bit so might pop and see if there about nv style tho ment to be on the other side tonight spending far to much time with these little blitters Edited October 9, 2009 by proTOM1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) First off you need to get a solar powered PIR security light from costco about £25 and fix it to a tree nearby to your bait station. Bait up the area with rabbits /dead birds & attached some fishing line to the battery in a cheap alarm clock, you will get a good idea of the time charlie comes for his ready meals when he runs off with the bait after a few nights he will be used to the light coming on before he gets his prize. I've found the times to be within 15/20 mins every night. When you have a regular pattern when the alarm clock stops, you need to choose a blustery night with no moon & be in place down wind from the bait about an hour before the alarms been stopping. Charlie comes along past the PIR where his dinner is convieniently placed for him every night, light goes on as normal, then BOOM good night Charlie Easy really P.S I cheat and use a Moultrie game camera SS Edited October 9, 2009 by Stealth Stalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 First off you need to get a solar powered PIR security light from costco about £25 and fix it to a tree nearby to your bait station. Bait up the area with rabbits /dead birds & attached some fishing line to the battery in a cheap alarm clock, you will get a good idea of the time charlie comes for his ready meals when he runs off with the bait after a few nights he will be used to the light coming on before he gets his prize. I've found the times to be within 15/20 mins every night.When you have a regular pattern when the alarm clock stops, you need to choose a blustery night with no moon & be in place down wind from the bait about an hour before the alarms been stopping. Charlie comes along past the PIR where his dinner is convieniently placed for him every night light goes on as normal then BOOM good night Charlie Easy really P.S I cheat and use a Moultire game camera SS Thanks worth a try if no luck tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Like i say its to big of a drive to do it just for the foxs plus the boss would not be impressed Well going for a shine in a bit so might pop and see if there about nv style tho ment to be on the other side tonight spending far to much time with these little blitters I presume a few wires would be OK then ? Midden ? Highseat and a game of fishing for foxes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Never tried it myself BFWIW down the poulterers get a turkey or large chicken carcase the type they sell for making stock and hang it out of reach in a bush in a position that you can shoot from cover and wait for the little beggars to try to get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 round here we have a hound and gun pack that will flush the wood through for 'rabbits' , very efficient at reducing the number of foxes, they would most likely clear you wood in a day, not the best thing for the birds though If there is a pen in the wood give early mornings a go , i find it very useful, some times lamping can be unproductive and yet early mornings can account for 2 or 3 foxes in a couple of mornings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 round here we have a hound and gun pack that will flush the wood through for 'rabbits' , very efficient at reducing the number of foxes, they would most likely clear you wood in a day, not the best thing for the birds though If there is a pen in the wood give early mornings a go , i find it very useful, some times lamping can be unproductive and yet early mornings can account for 2 or 3 foxes in a couple of mornings Have been out tonight but have been rained off not a sign to night will be trying one or two things now tho . there is no pen as such as its all patridge our shoot will have a look first thing before going shooting myself . cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Snares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperfox36 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 i know where ur comeing from m8 i choose too lie in wait for them from around 200 -250 yards away from where i see them or you can invest in a trap and dispose of the little ****s then this seems too work for me all the best in what you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicle Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Tom, i can always come over and give you a hand with the foxes....just PM me details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Lurchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 you could even try leaving them alone i have a few acres and find the foxes do me a favour they keep plenty of vermin at bay far outways any loss i have from them Are you for real? I can't think of a bigger vermin problem to have with your pheasants than foxes! FM :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remington 1100 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hi mate snares are my favorite, you know where they are playing so that's a good place as any. Try using a live catch cage trap I have caught a few cubs with mine never any adults. Foxes love pigeons they are a good bait. Hope this helps James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 After trying everything people said tonight well evening time they met there maker am well happy tryed ss trick which was working ok but still no luck really in the end tho will use again . after all me and 2 mates walked through with hush guns and bingo 2 seen 2 shot about time plus will be doing said drive for the first time sat big let day a famous person has bought the day well vinnie jones anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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