docholiday Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Went out last week and saw someone using a 10 bore s/a. I didnt even know they were produced. I fancy one for my goose shooting, It was a bit heavy but not to bad, anybody have any experience or know who makes them. any to be recommended / avoided cheers Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Remington makes the SP10, Browning made or makes the Gold in a 10 gauge. There used to be an Ithaca 10 gauge semi also, but I doubt you'd get one over here. Maikal might make the 153 in a 10 gauge also. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teal27 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 go for the browning, there was one guntrader for £400 The sp10s are £1200 plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 has anybody got any first hand experience ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 you can get ithacas over here, seen a few advertised fairly cheap [ around the 200 mark] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 has anybody got any first hand experience ? yep they throw your empty carts about 20 ft and as i reload thats expensive when you can use them about 4 times, what you want is a cracking U/O Lincoln 10 bore..... I happen to have one for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 pavman you have a pm oh dear this looks like it will get expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Take a look at John Forseys in Kent for an idea on prices Guns= http://www.johnforsey.co.uk/shotguns_big.html Ammo= http://www.johnforsey.co.uk/ammunition.html#WRNS Edited December 21, 2009 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Chrispti Thanks great link, looks a good set up might just take a trip down there in the new year and combine it with a day ticket with Kent wildfowlers Cheers Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) I have/had a Browning and a AYA matadoor. The lincolns are good, in fact they are the best o/u ten gauge ever produced. Yes, the Browning s/a is a heavy gun, but if you are using it for the purpose intended then it ist'nt a problem. A 10b auto is best suited with factory loads, using the modern powders in reloads the art is keeping the pressure down as they have a habit of not cycling sometimes. As for load comparison you are not really increasing your payload much with steel over a 3 1/2" 12g. The optimum load for a 10g in steel is (46g hand reloaded) giving your just under 1600 fps. Where you do gain is on the pattern side, far less shot string and more uniform pattern than a 3 1/2" 12g. If you want to really go for it use ITM or Hevi shot and push your payload up to 2 1/4 oz! As for factory loads the Winchester XXX are now few and far between in this country so we are more or less left with Remington sportsman and Nitro steel at around 20-25 quid a box. I have to say the Nitro's are excellent (1 9/16 oz in BB and 2's) and are really fast at around 1500 fps. The SP10 is no doubt the best factory made s/a 10b on the market, it was at the end of the day a remodeled Ithaca mag-10 but they are going to discontinue it soon so you will have to be quick if you fancy one. If you shoot a few geese, also like dropping high duck and being the envy of the gun next to you ranges then a 10b is for you. As said by the main man of reloading in the UK 'A 10 gauge and non-toxic is a match made in heaven' A statement which stand as being absolutley correct......... Edited December 22, 2009 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 you can get ithacas over here, seen a few advertised fairly cheap [ around the 200 mark] You will have to point them out fella....If they are that money then I will buy up everyone that is going........ The mag-10's are now a cult gun among wildfowlers as is the 12g winchester model 23 for the single trigger sxs fans, you pay big dollar for them in good nick these days and thats fact. Show us where they are and I will buy every one for 200 nicker and give you a commission for every one you get me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Thanks Starlight lot of good information there, I guess the question I have to answer is do I need a 10 bore as well as my 12g Urika from what I understand you have said I will get a better pattern and I will get to the higher birds Cheers Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 has anybody got any first hand experience ? ive got a browning gold lite 10b with 28" barrel fitted with a terror choke, ive shot hundreds and hundreds of geese and cant remember it ever jamming or any such trauma, even though its the lite model its still fairly heavy, enough weight to soak up recoil, but far too heavy for duck shooting, its ok for flighting duck that are reasonably high but forget snap shooting over splashes with it, my mate has got the SP10 in 30" with a compn choke, now that really is a goose killing machine, the action is so strong it really only cycles heavy high pressure loads properly, i cant remember it giving him any agro either, a super robust piece of kit but a bit pricier than the gold, get one you wont regret it, if anyone tells you to get a 3.5" 12b cos they are similar dont listen to them, a 10b with the right ammo makes a 12b look like a 410, both me and my mate home load and this is how to get the best out of your gun, get one you'll never look back, ive had all manner of fowling pieces over the years and none perform like a properly loaded 10b mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 OK NOW HAVE THE CHOICE OF BROWNING GOLD 30" AND A LINCON DOUBLE TRIGGER OVER AND UNDER, I HAVE NO IDEA WHICH WAY TO GO, BOTH ARE THE SAME PRICE AND BOTH ARE FROM PEOPLE ON THIS SITE, GUESS I WILL HAVE TO DO A BIT OF RESEARCH OVER XMAS DOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Not wanting to dampen anyones fire, but I couldn`t get on with double triggers, you however, may ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) It`s worth remembering that you will get some recoil attenuation from the semi which you won`t from the O/U. On the other hand, the auto has the capability to jam whilst the O/U will always fire. If you decide to go down the home loading route we`ve got some expert homeloaders in the club who will freely give advice to those just starting up. And no, that does`nt include the bloke you met with the 10 who`s nickname is "I.E.D." (Improvised explosive device.) Have fun choosing! Edited December 24, 2009 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 my choice would be the semi auto, if you home load high pressure ammo the recoil will be horrific through a break barreled gun, even factory ammo will be quite aggressive, me and a mate shot a round of skeet with a lincoln o/u a few years ago just for kicks using factory 2 1/4 oz remmy ammo when the non tox ban came in to use up his old ammo, by station 5 we were both wincing as we pulled the trigger good luck with which ever toy you choose mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) Mudpattern, and all thanks for the thoughts. will give you a call after xmas and have a chat for futher advice, ps thanks once again for a great morning last week Doc Edited December 27, 2009 by docholiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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