jmooney Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 What the difference? Is either still spoken today commonly? I was looking at the language software at the bookstore the other day and saw both and was confused. I thought they were one in the same. Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 are the same as far as i know. not very widely spoken, some areas in the republic of ireland its the main language, but not many mines severely limited, "faugh a ballagh" is about all i can remember at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Gaelic or Irish same ting. Taught in all schools, however only really spoken in Connemara and South Galway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Gaelic or Irish same ting. Taught in all schools, however only really spoken in Connemara and South Galway. not sure about down south but only taught in about half of schools in the north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I lived in Connemara for 5-6 yrs. I learnt one word-I had to. I can not spell it, but it is slan-cha. It means CHEERS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's the same but Different, y'know like English and American Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The British Government have pledged £20 million to fund the Irish language in Northern Ireland. Another waste of tax payers money. Money that would be better spent on hospitals etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 sorry i might be wrong as i have limited knowledge of the subject so don't want to offend anyone and if i'm wrong please correct me, but i thought the whole conflict in ireland/ northern ireland was that the north was part of brittain and wanted to stay that way and ireland wanted it to be part of ireland again so why would we be trying to make them speak a language that belongs to a country they don't want to be part of? or is it northern ireland that wants to be part ireland instead of GB? please don't crucify me as i said i have virtually no knowledge of the subject so would rather people inform me rather than scold! sorry if i've got it wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Gaelic is still used in scotland on some of the islands and is still on the telly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 sorry i might be wrong as i have limited knowledge of the subject so don't want to offend anyone and if i'm wrong please correct me, but i thought the whole conflict in ireland/ northern ireland was that the north was part of brittain and wanted to stay that way and ireland wanted it to be part of ireland again so why would we be trying to make them speak a language that belongs to a country they don't want to be part of? or is it northern ireland that wants to be part ireland instead of GB? please don't crucify me as i said i have virtually no knowledge of the subject so would rather people inform me rather than scold! sorry if i've got it wrong! northern ireland is the british part, southern ireland (republic of ireland) is the irish part. some people in the north want to be part of the south, others in the north want to remain british, thats where the problem lies. as for this bit so why would we be trying to make them speak a language that belongs to a country they don't want to be part of? thats why i said not all schools in the north teach irish - as far as alot of people are concerned its a dead language, and is used as a political tool too much by certain elements (same as ulster scots, but most people freely admit its a pile of **** ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I would imagine that some of the NI population would like to feel more Irish the same as some want to remain more British . They may feel that by teaching it in schools eventually they will all feel Irish or at least have something in common. I think more people speak Polish in Ireland than the Gaelic anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's the same but Different, y'know like English and American You'll get no argument from me there. You all definitely talk prettier than we do over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 northern ireland is the british part, southern ireland (republic of ireland) is the irish part. some people in the north want to be part of the south, others in the north want to remain british, thats where the problem lies. as for this bit so why would we be trying to make them speak a language that belongs to a country they don't want to be part of? thats why i said not all schools in the north teach irish - as far as alot of people are concerned its a dead language, and is used as a political tool too much by certain elements (same as ulster scots, but most people freely admit its a pile of **** ) Since it came up I've been wondering a bit about this myself. So NI is governed by the government of England and the rest of Ireland is under it's own government? So basically as far as laws and such are concerned it's the same if you are in NI or in the middle of London? Are there big differences in the laws between the Republic and the NI? Like is there anything that is legal in the south and you drive an hour north and it's not? Forgive my ignorance but I've been really curious about this for a while, even more so because I've been doing a lot of family history lately. I'm only 3 generations removed from some bloke named John Mooney who came from County Roscommon. I also found out that I've got some Scottish back there too on the other side (McReah). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) cheers for clearing that up babby didn't want to put my foot in it and people start tearing up peace treaties! so basically northern ireland hate everyone but some hate the brits less than the republic of ireland, and some hate the republic of ireland less than the brittain, but generally they hate us all and want to be there own country and rule the world! ...no seriously though i get it now cheers mate Edited February 17, 2010 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 So basically as far as laws and such are concerned it's the same if you are in NI or in the middle of London? No, not really - in NI all airguns have to be licensed, in England only those over 12 ftlbs In NI you can shoot starlings, in England it's illegal I am sure that there are lots of other differences - no doubt other more informed members will illucidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Since it came up I've been wondering a bit about this myself. So NI is governed by the government of England and the rest of Ireland is under it's own government? So basically as far as laws and such are concerned it's the same if you are in NI or in the middle of London? Are there big differences in the laws between the Republic and the NI? Like is there anything that is legal in the south and you drive an hour north and it's not? Forgive my ignorance but I've been really curious about this for a while, even more so because I've been doing a lot of family history lately. I'm only 3 generations removed from some bloke named John Mooney who came from County Roscommon. I also found out that I've got some Scottish back there too on the other side (McReah). I'm not surprised you are confused - it's not very easy to explain. But in simple terms, the Westminster goverment (London) oversees England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland i.e the UK. (The UK being fully titled as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). Ireland, or Republic of Ireland, or Eire (different names for the same) has it's own government and laws. Having said that, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland also have devolved governments that also have the ability to make their own laws in some areas, but not others. One example is animal welfare - tail docking is illegal in Scotland, but not in England. I can't remember if Wales has made up it's mind yet and I have no clue about what N. Ireland do. So, the reality is that each of the above-mentioned countries has different laws. Edited February 17, 2010 by Piebob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The main thing is we have a better football team than the Republic We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The main thing is we have a better football team than the Republic We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 IIRC Gealic is the language and Irish, Scots, and I think Cornish, and Breton are dialects therof but I may be wrong. I also seem to remember that Manx and Welsh are also closely affiliated, D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Better idea, lets show some unity and gang up on the french, cos looks to me, if we don't, they gonna win 6 nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm not getting involved in this topic because I will end up falling out with some of my fellow Northern IRISH members. Both the Protestant and Catholic community have their own views of what jurisdiction we should belong to, but it is only a metter of time before we lose the crown . Oops I am getting involved . Regarding the language I was only taught it in my first couple of years in high school and wasn't given the option to continue it. Looking back now I would love to be fluent in Gaelic so Dazza your views that it is a waste of money is a rather biased view IMO. Unless the language is taught more at schools then it will end up being lost which would mean we would lose some of our cultural identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm not getting involved in this topic because I will end up falling out with some of my fellow Northern IRISH members. Both the Protestant and Catholic community have their own views of what jurisdiction we should belong to, but it is only a metter of time before we lose the crown . Oops I am getting involved . Regarding the language I was only taught it in my first couple of years in high school and wasn't given the option to continue it. Looking back now I would love to be fluent in Gaelic so Dazza your views that it is a waste of money is a rather biased view IMO. Unless the language is taught more at schools then it will end up being lost which would mean we would lose some of our cultural identity. well lose the crown we might.it`s on the cards when that day comes i`m out of here.i think you `ll find you are so much better off being part of the uk.for god `s sake there has been that little in eire for hundreds of years they have been jumping on boats to try and get out of it.now the celtic tiger is dead i can`t see it getting any better.as for the language, i think irish is a half assed language and i`m not fussed on ulster scots either.both a massive waste of taxpayers money.i`d much rather see hospitals get the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm not getting involved in this topic because I will end up falling out with some of my fellow Northern IRISH members. Both the Protestant and Catholic community have their own views of what jurisdiction we should belong to, but it is only a metter of time before we lose the crown . Oops I am getting involved . Regarding the language I was only taught it in my first couple of years in high school and wasn't given the option to continue it. Looking back now I would love to be fluent in Gaelic so Dazza your views that it is a waste of money is a rather biased view IMO. Unless the language is taught more at schools then it will end up being lost which would mean we would lose some of our cultural identity. if you want cultural identity (and thats BOTH sides) then do what everyone else does - go out and learn it yourself, there was no class in my school about how to be an orangeman . £20 million could do a hell of alot in the nhs for starters, its a disgrace the amount of taxpayers money thats poured into both gaelic and ulster scots. anyway were digging ourselves a hole with it, how long will it be til some bright spark decides that to comply with human rights we have to not only put money into two dead/made up/politically motivated languages, but also polish, russian, portuguese, and all the other bloody languages we now have floating around the place. as for losing the crown? yep i agree its likely in time, but when that will be - months, years, decades, centuries? who knows, it probably wont matter by the time it happens. and if by some miracle the prediction of a united ireland by 2016 comes true... well, i doubt thered be much left standing up here to unite :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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