shot shot Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8535618.stm I'm not quite sure what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Angry fish in a little tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) Free Willy springs to mind. Very sad indeed All the best EDIT: Excuse my sense of humour, I just read it back Edited February 24, 2010 by SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 May seem harsh but good. These Orcas were taken from the wild, decimating the pods they were from, to appease stupid fee payers. I have been lucky enough to see whales including " killers " in the wild and for them and dolphins more than any other mammals captivity must be hell on earth. They are far and away more intelligent than given credit for, it is still highly likely whales will become extinct due to our past over harvesting ( The Leviathan ) To look into the eye of a whale that has come up to out of pure interest is awe inspiring. I went to see Shamu ten years ago, since then I have seen these mammals where they belong - free in their world, not prisoners in ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 May seem harsh but good. These Orcas were taken from the wild, decimating the pods they were from, to appease stupid fee payers. I have been lucky enough to see whales including " killers " in the wild and for them and dolphins more than any other mammals captivity must be hell on earth. They are far and away more intelligent than given credit for, it is still highly likely whales will become extinct due to our past over harvesting ( The Leviathan ) To look into the eye of a whale that has come up to out of pure interest is awe inspiring.I went to see Shamu ten years ago, since then I have seen these mammals where they belong - free in their world, not prisoners in ours. ^^^ What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 May seem harsh but good. These Orcas were taken from the wild, decimating the pods they were from, to appease stupid fee payers. I have been lucky enough to see whales including " killers " in the wild and for them and dolphins more than any other mammals captivity must be hell on earth. They are far and away more intelligent than given credit for, it is still highly likely whales will become extinct due to our past over harvesting ( The Leviathan ) To look into the eye of a whale that has come up to out of pure interest is awe inspiring.I went to see Shamu ten years ago, since then I have seen these mammals where they belong - free in their world, not prisoners in ours. Dito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Yeah, they're natural predators and taming them and sticking them in a tank won't do them any good. Sooner or later you'll get one with a recessive gene and it'll see red and attack. I like the way they said she fell in, as clearly they don't want the whale put down, or they'll lose visitors to the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 If i was treated like this id be killing people all over the shop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 ...The media acts surprised... "killer" whale. I mean, if a bee keeper who kept 'killer' bees got stung and died, the media probably wouldn't be fussed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesman Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 There are no animals in zoos anymore so I can't see the attraction of this place. I think it's cruel. The killer in the name is great for tabloids though. All dolphins are predators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Looking a little closer to home that poor polar bear in edinburgh zoo is absolutely shocking if you kept a dog in similar condition you would get charged with animal cruelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Looking a little closer to home that poor polar bear in edinburgh zoo is absolutely shocking if you kept a dog in similar condition you would get charged with animal cruelty. IIRC it's been moved to the highland wildlife park.As to wether it's living conditions have improved we can only hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I saw that polar bear at the zoo and it actually upset me a bit, i saw some pictures of it in its new enclosure and it looked soo much better! Space to run around, make a den and it even got snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hmmmm id have eaten her..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) doing what it does in nature so really unsurprising that it happened. Made a lot of news though so must be a quiet news day. Those watching now knows what fluffy cuddly Killer Wales do to seals and penguins. Edited February 25, 2010 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevouk Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 If you read the artical on yahoo news sounded like a accident waiting to happen.... The whale had already gone a bit nuts years before and already killed someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 If you play with wild animals that have this amount of power you should expect for things like this to happen now and again. It's the same as the circus, now and again you'll get a Bear/Tiger/Elephant or whatever that just decides it's not going to do it any more and when it all kicks off they're actually higher up the food chain than us unless we're tooled up! I want to say that unfortunately we can't make them think like us, but that's not the right words. It's not unfortunate, it's more unfortunate that we seem to think we have the right to turn such an amazing creature into a profit making puppet show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 At the end of the day its a shame she died but as the name killer in this case is a repeat offender dont you think it should have been released back where it came from ,that way this would never have happend, but i suppose they dont come cheap so it was probably all down to money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 after this long in captivity odds are it wouldn't last long in the wild. Might make them think twice about using it to perform tricks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 after this long in captivity odds are it wouldn't last long in the wild. Might make them think twice about using it to perform tricks though Fully agree. It'd be like releasing a town fox into the countryside. It'd just starve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Fully agree. It'd be like releasing a town fox into the countryside. It'd just starve. not quite the same most released foxes seem to get lead poisoning before starving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Do these big fish lose that killer hunter instinct that easy,surely this incident says no they dont,so release is in theory still practicle,besides if you have a one time killer on your hands surely you dont have much of an option its clear that being NICE to them doesnt work fancy stroking a fox for a month then hoping it wont eat your chickens Edited February 25, 2010 by berettaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Do these big fish lose that killer hunter instinct that easy, Yes. They don't know how to dive very well as they've only ever been in a "tank", so their solo hunting is limited. But probably more importantly, they don't know how to socialise with others orcas so don't join pods. The means two things - they will be less successful in hunting (orcas often hunt together) and they still crave social contact - but that means they follow boats/people, not pods of orcas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 you remember the whale from Free willie? They released him into the wild, then he starved to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 If you were locked up for years for no reason how would you feel about you guards or is that trainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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