Imperfection Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I voted no-like i always do when these threads re-appear. Capital punishment is nothing more than revenge.Its not an effective deterent and anyone who says it prevents crime is talking out of their bottom.Look at the good ole USA and the crime ratios with those states which still execute people. Instead they should spend the rest of their living days in solitary confinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I voted no-like i always do when these threads re-appear. Capital punishment is nothing more than revenge.Its not an effective deterent and anyone who says it prevents crime is talking out of their bottom.Look at the good ole USA and the crime ratios with those states which still execute people. Instead they should spend the rest of their living days in solitary confinement. dont let facts get in the way of a good lets get em shout for those who can think rationally here is a good read for the rest a dot to dot book should pass the time for you. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-abou...d-death-penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I voted no-like i always do when these threads re-appear. Capital punishment is nothing more than revenge.Its not an effective deterent and anyone who says it prevents crime is talking out of their bottom.Look at the good ole USA and the crime ratios with those states which still execute people. Instead they should spend the rest of their living days in solitary confinement. So whats wrong with revenge or retribution . Some body who is prepared to blow up innocents , then lets have some revenge . I f it was my family or kin then I would want revenge . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonp9lbw Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Yeh I'll do it on my days off !!!!!!!! Edited March 5, 2010 by leonp9lbw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Chard, Every time I look at this thread you're looking too. Haven't you got any work to do? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 for those who can think rationally here is a good read for the rest a dot to dot book should pass the time for you. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-abou...d-death-penalty Quote : The DPIC is recognized as an anti-death penalty group, but it doesn't clarify its stance on capital punishment. According to the pro-death penalty prosecutor Steve Stewart, the DPIC is "probably the single most comprehensive and authoritative internet resource on the death penalty", but "this site makes absolutely no effort to present any pro-death penalty views, and liberally spreads propaganda and rhetoric on behalf of "the cause." I'll stick to dot to dot Chard, Every time I look at this thread you're looking too. Haven't you got any work to do? B) Phil Haven't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Quote : The DPIC is recognized as an anti-death penalty group, but it doesn't clarify its stance on capital punishment. According to the pro-death penalty prosecutor Steve Stewart, the DPIC is "probably the single most comprehensive and authoritative internet resource on the death penalty", but "this site makes absolutely no effort to present any pro-death penalty views, and liberally spreads propaganda and rhetoric on behalf of "the cause." B) I'll stick to dot to dot Haven't you? POETS day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 So whats wrong with revenge or retribution . Some body who is prepared to blow up innocents , then lets have some revenge . I f it was my family or kin then I would want revenge .Harnser . Because then you are no better than them. Anyway,cant see the point of this arguement because capital punishment will never be brought back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I voted no because I don't trust the police or the judiciary to get it right all the time or even most of the time. There is the odd exception, like the Yorkshire ripper who should be executed by death by boomra boomra and his organs sold on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 A big 'NO' from me i haven't read nine pages of arguments but it only takes one person to be killed and found to be innocent to make it criminal in its self and as for Venables you couldn't kill a child at 10 they dont even do that in the US. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Id like to know how all the bleedin hearts can live with themselves when this scum is let back on the street and then the bodies start piling up again how many will howl then that these are saveable souls who should be protected from the hangman/needle/gun be given yet another chance maybe, then it should happen to their kith and kin ,would they shout to protect them THEN If you couldnt pull the lever,Im looking for a career change Edited March 5, 2010 by berettaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Id like to know how all the bleedin hearts can live with themselves when this scum is let back on the street and then the bodies start piling up againhow many will howl then that these are saveable souls who should be protected from the hangman/needle/gun be given yet another chance maybe, then it should happen to their kith and kin ,would they shout to protect them THEN If you couldnt pull the lever,Im looking for a career change Couldnt you just programme a computer to "pull the lever" after a random amount of time between 1 and 30 seconds ? You could have public hangings and have them televised and the bookies could take bets on how many seconds the computer selected that week. (a bit like the national lottery) I would get the bloke that does the voiceover for the National Lottery to do the voiceover too "And this weeks hanging computer is called Mildred, it has been used in 31 of 60 hangings and has hung people in 5 seconds the most amount of times etc..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 would you really want to hand over the power of life and death to the government/ judicial system? Are you mad? the government, local and central, already have too much power as it is, The government that governs least, governs best. A wise man once said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Couldnt you just programme a computer to "pull the lever" after a random amount of time between 1 and 30 seconds ? You could have public hangings and have them televised and the bookies could take bets on how many seconds the computer selected that week. (a bit like the national lottery) I would get the bloke that does the voiceover for the National Lottery to do the voiceover too "And this weeks hanging computer is called Mildred, it has been used in 31 of 60 hangings and has hung people in 5 seconds the most amount of times etc..." You are giving this far too much thought. However I reckon Simon Cowell would be able to come up with some kind of phone poll and make a bit more cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 However I reckon Simon Cowell would be able to come up with some kind of phone poll and make a bit more cash. and the heavenly Cheyrl Cole could be the one who presses 'enter'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 There aren't too many Christians on here are there, no wonder the Muslim faith is gaining strength and power. Careful what you wish for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 In the dark *** are you on about ? Are you now the one who is going to cause the thread to be closed by bringing religion into it? Stating that it is all the Christians who are causing the problems to do with Muslims - what you trying to do man create a Holy? Terrorists are one thing and should be dealt with in one manner ie through the martial law available to this country against terrorism. Murderers and such are dealt with by criminal law and if that don't work then private individuals can try civil law as has been done sucessfully in the past to at least get at a criminal. Mixing them all up to boost your argument for the death penalty is just pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft or blowing it out your earhole. Keep it on the one aspect and we might just have a decent thread with good points come to a natural end rather than have to be closed down by mods. Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 For those who think they could pull, inject, hit with a hammer or whatever to lay the "guilty to rest" yeah pudding rice and top comes top mind try some education rather than rhetoric start with getting down to wh smiths and buying a book other than one that gets coloured in,ask for a book titled THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS by sister Helen Prejean, then read not opinionate,in a perfect world the death penalty could and should be an option for top end vile acts of inhumanity, but as I said before, would you trust our judicial and system ably abetted by an oft corrupt plod? KW Kieth You forget i have Sociopathic tendencys , the only thing that keeps me on the right side are a few 240v shocks and the thought that "we" are going up . I hate em all mate . I only wish i could manage to put the rope around "there" "thier" necks . Blood shock therepy . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 We wouldn't have the death penalty for adultery and we wouldn't have a free-for-all for passers-by, three rocks for a fiver approach to it either. You would have Morrisons giving the rocks away free with fish t'up North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicle Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I voted yes, I don’t think we the tax payer should give up our hard earned cash to keep these low live degenerates. I fact Brown could make a shed load of cash by auctioning off to the highest bidder who gets to pull the leaver. I reckon it would be bigger than that well know site we all love to hate.....half the money raised could then go to the families of the victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 You would have Morrisons giving the rocks away free with fish t'up North I'd get mine from Tesco - for the Clubcard points Praise the Lord and pass the BOGOFs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 as much as there is a comedy element to all this, (god knows you lot have an evil sense of humour) the serious side of me says that any country that thinks killing the offender is punishment is kidding themselves. They only exectue people so they dont have to deal with the issue. Once he/she is in the ground, they are done with the deal and dont have to listen to the publilc screaming for blood. Its done to keep those in power where they are. Can you imagine if the state of Texas stopped executions? They would have whoever it is in office out on his **** in 5 mins. As black as their President might be, i dont see him taking forward thinking actions such as the removal of capital punishment. Its a case of not wanting to move forward. We can get rid of slavery in modern (Western) society, yet it still goes on in less developed countries. Same with the death penalty. We need to move on from this as its a hidious, barbaric method of punishment. Im not a religious person. The wife and kids are Catholic, but ive never been drawn to it. I dont hold much faith in the up or down theory, so dont feel i have anybody to answer to, yet it bothers me that two thousand years ago, somebody writing a book thought it a good enough idea to add the words "Thou shalnt not kill". Did they know something back then that we seem to have forgoten today? If they had such foresight back then to see it is wrong to kill another man, then all these years later, do you not think we should start to sit up and take notice? Will we ever learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Kieth You forget i have Sociopathic tendencys , the only thing that keeps me on the right side are a few 240v shocks and the thought that "we" are going up . I hate em all mate . I only wish i could manage to put the rope around "there" "thier" necks . Blood shock therepy . all the best yis yp Jim you don't need leccy now, a Leeds home game should have the same effect they are playing quite shocking at the moment starting to stutter mind I will be watching the mighty barnsley hopefully get stuffed this afty now back to topic. fair enough on give em a fright, and fair enough on not letting the guilty see daylight again, but I hand on heart as much as I would like to see some of the sick gets swing, cannot let myself trust our judicial system to the point of letting them top someone who may be innocent, far far to many blunders and downright fit ups by bent incompetent plods right up to present day sorry to say, and I still say half the hang em high keyboard hard lads would wet their little leggy Pooh's if given say a razor and a perps throat ( yes I know you would but I know YOU ) KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Jim you don't need leccy now, a Leeds home game should have the same effect they are playing quite shocking at the moment starting to stutter mind I will be watching the mighty barnsley hopefully get stuffed this afty now back to topic. fair enough on give em a fright, and fair enough on not letting the guilty see daylight again, but I hand on heart as much as I would like to see some of the sick gets swing, cannot let myself trust our judicial system to the point of letting them top someone who may be innocent, far far to many blunders and downright fit ups by bent incompetent plods right up to present day sorry to say, and I still say half the hang em high keyboard hard lads would wet their little leggy Pooh's if given say a razor and a perps throat ( yes I know you would but I know YOU ) KW not half, but most. Im sure we have a few on here who through one action or another have been responsible for the taking of a life. Lets ask them how they feel knowing they killed another man (it might have been in battle or whatever). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepy Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Personally I think its acase of three strikes and your out.As soon as you are old enough to understand the law fully,you break you pay. This would be from the very minor crimes(dropping litter) to the serious(murder)this way people would eventually learn not to break the law.I would as include all drink related crime because it really ****** me off when people hid behind the fact that ''I had to much to drink I cant remember'' TOUGH. I am sure that there would be plenty of people willing to do the job as hangman,remember talking many years ago to a hangman from one of the African countries and he took great pride in his work and explaining to me how it was an art form to get it just right Sweepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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