nickcass23 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) Ok its nearly time to put in the variation for a fox rifle, Ive had it in my head 22.250 for a long while but!!!!!.223 keeps raising its ugly head. What do you guys think? I am lookin towards a Tikka T3 Lite (money at this level-sub £1000). Gonna be buyin ammo with no real intension of home loading in the near future.Please help as am goin mad with the choice!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I know its wrong section have posted correctly aswell!!!! Late night Saturday, few beers etc down already!!!!! Edited March 6, 2010 by nickcass23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) I will say 22-250 and others will say other rifles. However the 22-250 is a lovely flat shooting round (have a look at the ballistics charts) I have found though, that some FEOs are reluctant to hand this calibre out, whereas others promote it as a great 'first centrefire' (Mine certainly did :( ) Oh and if you're worried about ammo cost, 22-250 is through the roof. I'm going to start reloading soon Edited March 6, 2010 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcass23 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Ok its nearly time to put in the variation for a fox rifle, Ive had it in my head 22.250 for a long while but!!!!!.223 keeks raising its ugly head. What do you guys think? I am lookin towards a Tikka T3 Lite (money at this level-sub £1000). Gonna be buyin ammo with no real intension of home loading in the near future.Please help as am goin mad with the choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcass23 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Go on then mate what is through the roof wit the ammo cost?:(? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Why not a .243? It will deal with foxes very nicely and is also very capable on deer if you should chose to go down that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 hi i have a remington adl 22-250 and dont think or want any other gun it does all i need foxes roe (the odd rabbit )has a great range on it realy flat zero 100 yrd shoot staight to 200yards +will drop any for or roe no probs and with a t8 sound mod on it my 12 year old daughter fires it in the shooting range no recoil what so ever what more can i say brilliant ammo for federal or remington £16 a box of 20 but a prev post others will have there views on 223 try both if poss :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Go on then mate what is through the roof wit the ammo cost?? federal or remington £16 a box of 20 If you can get them for £16 I'm amazed. I used to buy them for £14 and then I went back and they'd gone up to £24 for 20 :( You might think 'oh, that's not too bad' However if you have a nightmare getting your rifle zeroed, the cost will soon add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 22/250 keep the bullet grain to about 50 and you wont go wrong,thats what i use. its a bigger charge and the bullet travels faster than the 222 or 223. all of which will shoot flat up to at least 200 yards or so im told. its all your own preferance they are all good rifles,id personallly stay away from a 243 but im sure they would do the job aswel!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 .243 & .22-250. Both brilliant rifles for fox. I use both, but tend to use my .243 more nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 .22-250 has a slightly longer range but you may find ammo choice isn't as good in your local area as .223 .223 is a little quieter and less prone to muzzle flip (unmoderated) so you may find it easier to shoot than .22-250 .243 is good because it gives you flexibility to take Roe as well but would your land be cleared for .243? Personally I think .223 is the best all-rounder out of the .22CF's but that's just personal choice, any will do the job nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) .22-250 has a slightly longer range but you may find ammo choice isn't as good in your local area as .223 .223 is a little quieter and less prone to muzzle flip (unmoderated) so you may find it easier to shoot than .22-250 .243 is good because it gives you flexibility to take Roe as well but would your land be cleared for .243? Personally I think .223 is the best all-rounder out of the .22CF's but that's just personal choice, any will do the job nicely. I'd tend to go with that, but this issue and debate has raged forever, and the answer is always down to the shooter and the land. I have 6 different calibre rifles all conditioned for fox because I have such a wide range of problems to deal with, choosing just one would be very difficult for me. The vast majority of foxes are shot under 200yards, and probably the majority of those under 100yards, so any of the listed rifles (and .222) are perfectly capable! But possibly give particular consideration to the .223! Edited March 7, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 If you don't mind throwing money at your RFD for ammunition, go for .22-250. If you want a wider range of ammunition for a lot less money go .223. If you are using a .22-250, you will need someone with you spotting to see if you hit the target, .223 is much more tame and you can quite easily see the bullet hit home. Another thing to mention is muzzle flash and muzzle flip, recoil can be quite hard from a .22-250 when compared to the .223, but the muzzle flash from a .22-250 is unbeleivable compared to the .223. If you want to shoot long range, and spend a lot on ammo, go .22-250, but if you want to do 300 yard lamping, with a wode range of factory ammo (which is a lot cheaper) go .223. All the very best, SSS :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I'd tend to go with that ...thought you might, as it was you that taught me these things :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Bought a T3 lite in 22-250, and i love it. I have shot 5 oxes with it now the furthest just over 200 yards, the closest two nights ago at 15 yards with the lamp! It is very effective but expensive to use at around £1.50 a bang. However £1.50 a fox doesnt sound so bad especially as i havent missed one yet... My friend is looking for a .223 so il let you know what the difference is when he gets his! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 They all kill foxes well. Pick which ever one you can easily obtain ammo / reload for... 243 if you want to shoot deer bigger than Muntjac and CWD For me... I side with the 223, round 'ere we are 90% muntjac & fox. I can reload my 223 for peanuts, and I use a lot less powder than the bigger calibers to achieve the same end result.... dead foxes easily to 250 yards, yet most are taken sub 150.... another reason why I don't always see the benefit of long range flat (expensive shooting) rounds. You can't shoot a fox at 300 yards under the lamp, if you can't see it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Or why not consider a 222 Les :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun tim Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 22-250 for foxes and 308 for bambi's for my choise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 They all kill foxes well. Pick which ever one you can easily obtain ammo / reload for... 243 if you want to shoot deer bigger than Muntjac and CWD For me... I side with the 223, round 'ere we are 90% muntjac & fox. I can reload my 223 for peanuts, and I use a lot less powder than the bigger calibers to achieve the same end result.... dead foxes easily to 250 yards, yet most are taken sub 150.... another reason why I don't always see the benefit of long range flat (expensive shooting) rounds. You can't shoot a fox at 300 yards under the lamp, if you can't see it anyway. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well I wouldn't swap my 22-250 for a different calibre for Fox Shooting!The 22-250 does the job extremely well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpshot Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 .222 exelent for foxes but my preference is .223 superb caliber. ammo choice brilliant. and if you dont want to reload and your lucky then privi partizan cost £8 per 20. it aint the caliber or the ammo its the shooter that makes the difference. it isnt a case of mines bigger than yours. start small and work your way up and youll find out for yourself. gotta be the best way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Hi, By adding the hornet, you've now got a full house. Ask yourself what is going to be my maximum range and your question will answer itself. Especially if you're not going to be reloading, what is the point of forking out on ammo that you are not going to use to it's full potential. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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