Explain this one?

[death from below]

Anything that slows down vehicles speeding on rural roads is to be commended.

If you aren't speeding, you have nothing to complain about.

 

 

Tough being a saint?

[Cranfield]

Tough being a saint?

 

I ain't no saint, but I do moderate my speed when driving round country roads.

[kyska]

What a terrible, sad thing to hear. Did it happen recently and was the guy (properly) prosecuted?

 

No, long time ago.....

 

And no, but its tough to call, he wasn't going ballistic in the car, 30 is too high, even at 30 not many people survive, especially little ones whos heads are hit hard because of their size.

 

Not being rude, I'd rather not talk about the ins and outs of it, I just wanted to make my point from the sharp end.

[Shuck.]

I always thought you need proper training to use these stupid little things and even then they can give misreadings even if they are properly calibrated.

I remember watching a small docu about them and they were given a police gun to test and they were getting + - 5mph on a stationary vehicle.. old bored fogies aren't going to get accurate readings.

[Dr W]

I thought movement of the gun could give false readings, old people are not know for having the steadiest hands.

 

Edit: kind of what was said above

Edited March 18, 2010 by Dr W

[UKPoacher]

There are two issues. Speeding and letting busy-bodies play at speed cops. If the Parish Council wallahs haven't got any powers to prosecute then they will become as ineffective as scarecrows and PCSOs. Everyone will ignore them.

[hendersons]

By letting people do this are we not starting on the road to legalised vigilantism. I'm all for the police holding more speed checks in and around small villages and peoples dwellings rather than just the a roads where they know they can make a few pounds. But I certainly feel that letting any old member of the public do their work for them is very wrong. Afterall we do pay our taxes for the police to police the whole country not just the busy or densely populated bits.

nick

[ST3V3]

Looks like a competion they have supplied the score board see who can get the highest score!

[bionicle]

As a serving office trained in the use of HHR I can tell you all that it would not stand up in a court of law. There are rules for the use of the equipment which I shall not go into bit but if any one gets stuck on for a speeding offence in this manner then challenge it straight away.

 

The local villagers are shown how to point it at a car and they record the speed of your vehicle and that's all, it's a deterrent nothing more nothing less.

 

I have to record several detail in my PNB before I can use it and this is for evidence purposes if case it's challenged and goes to court.

[al4x]

odds are its knackered old equipment I would assume just done as a PR exercise to keep the busybodies happy.

 

Though I'm with Cranfield having lived in a couple of villages where speeding was a big problem it makes you realise how anti social it is in residential areas.

[Silhouette]

I personally would be tempted to slam on the brakes as soon as i saw one of these do gooders, then lose control and crash my old car. It would be easy to bring a case against them having caused the accident by their presence, jumping out and pointing a speed gun at you making you lose concentration!!!!. I bet none of them are insured? That would have them running for cover. I could do with a nice new car.

Edited March 18, 2010 by Silhouette

[Klunk]

It's odd, isn't it, that the Police seem to be condoning vigilantism in this case, but if you take a pop at a burglar in your own home in the middle of the night they don't condone vigilantism any more.

 

I think there might be some truth in the thinking that the station chief just give the 'concerned citizens' a speed gun to play with to shut 'em up for a bit.

[Shuck.]

odds are its knackered old equipment I would assume just done as a PR exercise to keep the busybodies happy.

 

 

I think there might be some truth in the thinking that the station chief just give the 'concerned citizens' a speed gun to play with to shut 'em up for a bit.

 

Think that's the case too.

[ozzy518]

What normally happens when villagers like this bang on about speeding is that a speed camera gets set up and who does it end up catching? Yup, the very same locals who complained about it in the first place!

[Cranfield]

I personally would be tempted to slam on the brakes as soon as i saw one of these do gooders, then lose control and crash my old car. It would be easy to bring a case against them having caused the accident by their presence, jumping out and pointing a speed gun at you making you lose concentration!!!!. I bet none of them are insured? That would have them running for cover. I could do with a nice new car.

 

Something like this happened some years ago just south of Newmarket Racecourse.

A policeman with a hand held radar gun stepped out from behind a hedge on a country road and the oncoming driver swerved and went into the hedge.

The driver was successfully prosecuted for driving without due care, as well as the speeding.

He was a work colleague and we had both been to a Corporate day at Newmarket races and were on our way home, he took the short cut.

[Alanl50]

We are thinking of bringing this into our village and Ill be honest If I have the time Ill put myself forward for the training as well, If your not speeding you have no need to worry! If some geriatric with a box brownies slows down speeding twots thats fine by me.

It 30 mph in our village Im ****** if it ever adhered too, good on them villages who take it upon themselves to do something about it, the police are stretched as it is, they have only so much money to go round and only so many officers with time to waste catching ******** speeding.

Alan

[Mungler]

If people want to stand outside a school and help reduce the amount of speeding vehicles, then good luck to them.

[bennyblanco]

I can't believe people are so anti this initiative, I live in a small village and we get people racing through at 50-60mph every day. Whilst a conviction is very unlikely it does slow people down and a warning letter from the police is a good wake up call.

A customer of mine was killed walking home from the pub when a speeding driver lost control on a bend, mounted the pavement and ploughed him through a wall. I get to see his widow and three children walk to junior school every morning and I have to say it has absolutely destroyed them, a whole family wrecked because some ******** was showing off to his mates. He got a short sentence and those children will grow up with no father, and a walk to school past the new bit of wall where their father was murdered by irresponsibility.

There are places where speeding is relatively safe and I am against revenue raising by cynical speed enforcement, I applaud speed traps in in villages and residential areas of cities.

For those that are against this speed reduction technique, I wonder how you would feel about speeding if you were to loose a son or daughter? Bearing in mind that nearly 3000 children are killed or seriously injured every year.

 

I used to park my old nissan patrol on the road outside my house as it had big girders welded on to replace the bumpers and so could happily take a knock of two, my house is 20yds from the peak of a hill and 100yds from a blind bend and I would spend sundays listening to people skidding to stop or trashing their cars on my bumpers or the bushes opposite because they were driving too fast to be able to react to an obstacle in the road. I miss that nissan