Evil Elvis Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 :thumbs: I have a huge t8 on my .222 and while it supresses sound very well, I cannot strip it and claen it, and after my history of blowing up several HMR mods i dont want to do the same again. I have a dm80 now on my HMR which is fab, its trips down very easily, you only have to take it apart, leave it a few hours then brush off the residue, bloody brilliant, its also over barrell and very light. Do they make a CF dm80? Or is there a comparible product out there that strips down for cleaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 The wildcat predator 8 moderator can be completely stripped and cleaned, and isn't a great deal more expensive than a T8. Alternatively, if weight and size is an issue, look at ASE CQD or ASE UTRA. They can't be stripped, but a very good quality sound mods. Also, with the ASE mentioned, they aren't over barrel so weight is further forward. Well worth looking at. I'm not too sure of any others that can be stripped, but the predator 8 are good value for money. All the best, Sam :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 :thumbs: I like over barrelled ones, i have a 21" barrell, dont want to make it any longer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Just noticed on the other thread, deker mentioned a wildcat P8 compact. May be worth googling it :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 i have a dm80 on my .243 which strips down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) http://www.wildcatrifles.co.uk/full-specification.html Compact is Fully stripable and much shorter and lighter than full length version, exactly the same baffle set though! Great for anything up to and including .308, I have one on my .223, .243 and .308!! The tube top right is from the full version and shows how much longer (heavier it is).. :thumbs: Edited April 28, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 My mod of choice at the moment is the Ase Northstar. It can't be stripped but the build quality of the Ase mods is very good and they are also very compact. And they're stainless too so no rust. I had an S5 on my Hornet and it went out in all weathers, got really soaked etc and never showed a sign of corrosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 You don't need a wheelie bin on the end of your barrel to silence it. Get it chopped and stick an ASE on it, smallest and best, [iMO of course...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 i have a T8 on my 243 and a PES scout on my 308 the PES realy cuts the barking out of my 308 and likewise the T8 on my 243 .so i tried the PES on my 243 christ it made no difference to the barking hardly at all was very surprised how quite the T8 makes the 243 when the T8 rots away i shall replace it with another :thumbs: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Don't believe everything you read on here :thumbs: My T8 get's put through some seriously hard times, in all manner of wet / sand / salty conditions - and it's never missed a beat. There's not a single rust spot on it either! I look after it, just the same I do with my rifle hardware - it gets a wipe down and a spray of lube after each use. IIRC the forrestry commision were quite happy to use them! If I were you baz - I'd save your cash until it's broken. The price of mods these days could see you half way to some decent euro optics - In my opinion..... a better buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve42 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Don't believe everything you read on here My T8 get's put through some seriously hard times, in all manner of wet / sand / salty conditions - and it's never missed a beat. There's not a single rust spot on it either! I look after it, just the same I do with my rifle hardware - it gets a wipe down and a spray of lube after each use. IIRC the forrestry commision were quite happy to use them! If I were you baz - I'd save your cash until it's broken. The price of mods these days could see you half way to some decent euro optics - In my opinion..... a better buy Im with garyb my t8 gets some serious use , and is well looked after and just as quiet as the wildcat and ase ultras :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Don't believe everything you read on here http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...0&hl=T8+mod http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...c=42645&hl= :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) At the end of the day, it's a component - a component that will fail if not correctly looked after. You wouldn't get your gun soaking wet, stick it in the cabinet and expect it to give long service would you? I'm not saying the T8 is the best on the market... what I am saying is - they are not as bad as people seem to make out. I can't see why you'd want to chop and change a good working one because a couple of blokes on here can't keep their kit rust free :thumbs: Edited April 28, 2010 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 If you do change it I've got a DM80 on my .223 and it does what its meant to, not stripped it yet though. From memory size wise its not much different to a T8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 i wouldn't buy another one, but i'm not changing it until its knackered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 My T8 get's put through some seriously hard times, in all manner of wet / sand / salty conditions - and it's never missed a beat. There's not a single rust spot on it either! That's the trouble though. You can have a tidy looking T8 one minute and the next it blows out from the inside? I've never had one but that's because I've heard of so many people having problems. As you say you have to take what's said on forums with a little caution but when you talk to a lot of people and the general trend looks negative their has to be a reason? Sometimes if you have a clean mod that's been hanging around for some time it pays to pass it on for a few quid to get someone a cheap start and put that money to use on a better one. It's better than losing it completely and getting nothing for it! My view of it is if it can't be stripped it needs to be stainless really. That way you're safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) The wildcat predator 8 moderator can be completely stripped and cleaned, and isn't a great deal more expensive than a T8.Alternatively, if weight and size is an issue, look at ASE CQD or ASE UTRA. They can't be stripped, but a very good quality sound mods. Also, with the ASE mentioned, they aren't over barrel so weight is further forward. Well worth looking at. I'm not too sure of any others that can be stripped, but the predator 8 are good value for money. All the best, Sam I agree Ive just fitted one to my 222 - not as heavy as they look either - can easily take a standing shot with the Pred 8 also you loose the tin can type sound associated with the T8's also DM 80 make a CF mod for around £240- my Wildcat Predator 8 was £225 from Sportsmans Nr Yeovil Les Edited April 29, 2010 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Another vote for the pred 8 compact had mine for two years now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 If T8's cost about 70-80 quid they would be a good buy for the money. The world has moved on since they were introduced, there are far better options out there now. Nick has seen and heard my ASE, it's about a 3rd of the size of a T8 and does the same or better job. And for the record both of those blown mods were looked after meticulously by their owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have had two T8's and have a 3rd that came with a rifle. They are pants, end of. There are much better alternatives out there. For my money, PES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Here's the Wildcat Predator 8 fitted to my CZ 222 Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 was definitely impressed with Dunkield's ASE - if my T8 goes, that's what i'll stick on my .223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 was definitely impressed with Dunkield's ASE - if my T8 goes, that's what i'll stick on my .223 Can I ask how much the ASE goes for?? Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 TBH I can't remember 300 ish? I remember I got 3 prices that varied wildly - bearing in mind they were all trying to sell the same item that was sat up at Jackson Rifles, so I got a fair indication of which local gun shops not to deal with in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Not a lot in it then - do you think they are better than the Wildcat Pred 8??? I fail to see - looking at the engineering involved why they cost so much?? Les Edited April 29, 2010 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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