Cannon Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I've googled quite a bit to find an answer to this question with no definitive answer. Would it be possible to rebore a .22lr without having to take a step up in calibre? I.E bring the barrel back to near perfect condition where it shoots as good as what it did when it came out of the factory? I have been told a rifle I'm interested in has a 'good' bore, but I have high standards when it comes to the condition of firearms, as well as safety and accuracy. An increase in calibre would not suit, and the last thing I'd want is to get a year out of this little rifle before it becomes a wall hanger. I'd be expecting at least 5 years from it. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 personally i wouldnt bother mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you rebore it, it will get bigger!! .22lr hardly ever wear out, they can get filthy and even copper coated, perhaps damaged crown (easy) but few wear out...BUT SOME DO!! You will always find someone who will tell you a horror tale, usually that they heard, about .22lr barrels, but look at it yourself and you will get an idea. MOST .22lr barrels will last a lifetime and then some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 This thing is 65 years old lol. It won't cost that much so I figure, why not? Very hard to find in good condition...........predicaments..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 im still not sure about reboring but if youve got high standards with accuracy youd be safer getting something new; failing that why not get a new barrel made for it?? shouldnt be that difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 A new barrel seems an option, but the barrel isn't just a barrel. It incorporates the mag tube and the receiver. May as well buy a new one because the cost of machining a new barrel, receiver and mag tube would be immense I'm sure lol. Not to mention stamping, re-proofing and threading.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 What rifle is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 What about a 'new barrel liner' ?? Bore out the old - in with the new .. Brownells have several makes, so someone here should probably be able to help you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You'd do well to burn out the barrel of an LR. Anyway, if it's 65 years old, you can't expect it to compare with the match rifles of the current days. It's like comparing computers from today and 20 years ago; the workmanship, precision and expectation is much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Doesn't matter how old it is, its how many rounds its had through it that counts and the quality in the first place. My anschutz is pretty long in the tooth but way more accurate than my modern BRNO. Can't you try it and see if its accurate enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cannon Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 The rifle has had quite a few rounds through it and shows some wear at the muzzle. I'm not looking to achieve 1/4 inch groups with it, but at least 1 inch at 30 yeards would be nice. It would be coming over from England to an RFD over here so I wouldn't be able to try it before it went on the FAC. Buy before you try which is unfortunate. The make and model of the rifle shall remain anonymous for the time being. Don't want to jeopardize my chances lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 The make and model of the rifle shall remain anonymous for the time being. Don't want to jeopardize my chances lol Holland & Holland, one off, once owned by the Queen... It can't be that special if you're delaying over it. Oh and if it was that important, the bizarre idea of attempting to rebore it would seem wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I made the decision to go for it so have started the ball rolling. Find out in the next 3 days if it's mine Billy, the only reason for asking about a rebore was to establish whether or not the life of the rifle could be extended beyond what I expect from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 post pics when you get it, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) Deleted G.M. Edited August 23, 2010 by Graham M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I made the decision to go for it so have started the ball rolling. Find out in the next 3 days if it's mine Billy, the only reason for asking about a rebore was to establish whether or not the life of the rifle could be extended beyond what I expect from it I'm only messin' with ya ...looking forward to the pics of the diamond encrusted, gold plated beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i was in my local gun shop a few weeks ago and an old boy was handing in an old savage .22lr that was over 50yrs old and fired tens of thousands of rounds and been the estate rabbit rifle almost all its life, the stock was tatty and the front site was a filed down cut nail but the action was as smooth as silk, i'd be over the moon if my cz cycled like that, the bore was excellent and he reckoned it was as accurate as the day they bought it, he was only handing it in as his eye sight is not as good as 50yrs ago and there was no way to fit a scope onto it, real shame to destroy it but his FEO would only allow one 22lr on his ticket mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The rifle has had quite a few rounds through it and shows some wear at the muzzle. I'm not looking to achieve 1/4 inch groups with it, but at least 1 inch at 30 yeards would be nice. It would be coming over from England to an RFD over here so I wouldn't be able to try it before it went on the FAC. Buy before you try which is unfortunate. The make and model of the rifle shall remain anonymous for the time being. Don't want to jeopardize my chances lol if it wont shoot a 1inch group at 30 yards now it must be totally knackered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The rifle has had quite a few rounds through it and shows some wear at the muzzle. I'm not looking to achieve 1/4 inch groups with it, but at least 1 inch at 30 yeards would be nice. Given the tiny amount of powder a rimfire burns and the wax coated lead bullets it is very difficult to wear one out. You probably just need to have the muzzle re-crowned to get it shooting ok. It is possible to re-bore the barrel and fit a liner. As previously mentioned Brownells sells a kit to do this, but getting an export license would make this an expensive proposition. Also if your gun is "collectible" it would ruin its value to any collector. I would have the muzzle re-crowned first off to see if this improved the accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I've googled quite a bit to find an answer to this question with no definitive answer. Would it be possible to rebore a .22lr without having to take a step up in calibre? I.E bring the barrel back to near perfect condition where it shoots as good as what it did when it came out of the factory? I have been told a rifle I'm interested in has a 'good' bore, but I have high standards when it comes to the condition of firearms, as well as safety and accuracy. An increase in calibre would not suit, and the last thing I'd want is to get a year out of this little rifle before it becomes a wall hanger. I'd be expecting at least 5 years from it. What do you guys think? The rifle has had quite a few rounds through it and shows some wear at the muzzle. I'm not looking to achieve 1/4 inch groups with it, but at least 1 inch at 30 yeards would be nice. It would be coming over from England to an RFD over here so I wouldn't be able to try it before it went on the FAC. Buy before you try which is unfortunate. The make and model of the rifle shall remain anonymous for the time being. Don't want to jeopardize my chances lol I made the decision to go for it so have started the ball rolling. Find out in the next 3 days if it's mine :( Billy, the only reason for asking about a rebore was to establish whether or not the life of the rifle could be extended beyond what I expect from it None of this adds up or makes any sense, what experience do you have of .22lr? High Standards and 1" at 30 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) Post deleted......obviously wasting my time G.M. Edited August 23, 2010 by Graham M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 None of this adds up or makes any sense, what experience do you have of .22lr? High Standards and 1" at 30 yards Forgive my ignorance on the subject of .22 accuracy. I do have high standards and have fired many a .22. Some of which I have been unable to achieve satisfactory groups with. The last ruger 10/22 I fired couldn't even create a 1 inch group at 25 meters. To prove this I got another shooter to test it, and they too could not achieve a 1 inch group. I am by no means dead eye d*ck when it comes to shooting, but that takes the **** a bit. Being an old firearm I was a bit sceptical about it's accuracy in comparison with modern .22's. Having had very little experience with older firearms, I felt it necessary to get a second opinion. I have not fired this gun yet and will only know what it shoots like when it's on my FAC. Just trying to establish whether or not a contingency plan should be made in the event it's not satisfactory with regards accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Forgive my ignorance on the subject of .22 accuracy. I do have high standards and have fired many a .22. Some of which I have been unable to achieve satisfactory groups with. The last ruger 10/22 I fired couldn't even create a 1 inch group at 25 meters. To prove this I got another shooter to test it, and they too could not achieve a 1 inch group. I am by no means dead eye d*ck when it comes to shooting, but that takes the **** a bit. Being an old firearm I was a bit sceptical about it's accuracy in comparison with modern .22's. Having had very little experience with older firearms, I felt it necessary to get a second opinion. I have not fired this gun yet and will only know what it shoots like when it's on my FAC. Just trying to establish whether or not a contingency plan should be made in the event it's not satisfactory with regards accuracy It goes like this, Ruger 10/22 and high standards do not feature in the same sentence, but even that should do better than 1" at 25 yards. If you want an OLD gun then fine, but expect the worst and anything else is a bonus, do you want a gun to shoot or hang on the wall?? I am completely lost as to why you keep talking high standards and accuracy and talk about old guns or ones that will never win you any medals. Forget it all and buy a new CZ, that will GUARANTEE you do better than anything you are talking about, and last a lot longer than a year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 It goes like this, Ruger 10/22 and high standards do not feature in the same sentence, but even that should do better than 1" at 25 yards. If you want an OLD gun then fine, but expect the worst and anything else is a bonus, do you want a gun to shoot or hang on the wall?? I am completely lost as to why you keep talking high standards and accuracy and talk about old guns or ones that will never win you any medals. Forget it all and buy a new CZ, that will GUARANTEE you do better than anything you are talking about, and last a lot longer than a year!! Couldn't have said it better myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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